翻译：Sean the Merc 时间轴：chamallow 校对：Sean the Merc CC字幕来自： www.addic7ed.com
作为一个在平民区长大的孩子 As a kid growing up in the ghetto,
我最为渴求的东西并不是金钱，而是名望 one of the things I wanted most was not money, it was fame.
我渴望家喻户晓，我渴望被人认出：“快看，那个是OJ！” I wanted to be known. I want the people to say, "Hey, there goes O.J."
导演：以斯拉·埃德尔曼
你在拉夫洛克监狱服刑快5年了 You're approaching five years now at Lovelock.
给我们谈谈你的日常工作 Tell us about your work assignments.
这5年你都是怎么过的？ How have you occupied your time for the past five years?
恩……刚来的时候，我是勤杂工 Uh, when I first came here, I was a porter,
主要是打扫监舍之类 which comprised of cleaning things in the unit that I was in,
做了一小段时间之后 and basically after a relatively short period of time,
我去了健身房工作 I started working as a gym worker.
每天，恩……为器械消毒 I start each day, um, disinfecting, uh, the workout equipment in the gym,
和拖地，恩……和我的同事们一起 mopping floors with the other, uh, group of us that work in the gym.
恩……我也一直兼做教练 I've coached teams, um, uh, since I've been here.
恩……我很骄傲地说我们是冠军 Uh, and I like to say that we won the championship,
我们年龄都不小了，队员也各式各样 and we were old guys, a totally mixed group of players.
我不上场，我只做教练 I didn't play, I just coached.
我看到你在1994年46岁的时候被逮捕 I do see that in 1994 you were arrested at the age of 46.
我们……我们现在要说那个案子？ We... We're talking about this case?
不，说说你的第一次被捕 No, the age at first arrest.
第一次，不管以任何罪名，是在多少岁的时候？ How old were you, first time you were arrested? For any reason.
[Sighs]
恩……我觉得就是46岁，没错 Um, I think about 46, yes.
OJ：美国制造 第1部分
拥有约1万6千名学生 With an enrollment of approximately 16,000 students,
这是南加州最大 this is the largest and oldest university
也是历史最为悠久的学府 of continuous existence in Southern California.
占地45英亩 Its buildings and grounds cover 45 acres
数以千计的毕业生 and it has graduated many thousands of men and women
成为了社会的中流砥柱 who are now leaders in the business and professional world.
我之前不是太了解他 I didn't know that much about him.
大概是从他大专时期开始有所耳闻 I heard about his reputation coming out of junior college.
他那时高大、快速、有力、灵活 He was big, fast, powerful, dynamic.
让人眼前一亮，你没有见过这样的人才 （威利·布朗 南加大教练助理） You're awed, because you haven't seen that.
我当时在圣何塞州立大学兼职，朋友跟我说 I was teaching part-time at San Jose State and a friend of mine said,
“嘿，你得去看看这个旧金山的小鬼 （哈利·爱德华兹博士 社会学家） "Hey, man, you gotta go check out this little cat from, um, San Francisco.
他的名字是辛普森，奥瑞修·詹姆斯·辛普森” His name is Simpson. Orenthal James Simpson."
辛普森拿球，瞬间爆炸 O.J. takes the football. Boom.
我记得他完成了一个快90码的达阵 I think he runs about 90 yards with it for a touchdown.
他冲过那些球员，就像大水冲过游客一样 He ran through 'em like flowing water through a tourist.
当时圣何塞州立大学试图招募他，我当面问他 San Jose State was trying to recruit him, and I asked him,
“OJ，你的追求是什么？” "O.J., what is it that you're lookin' for?"
他说：“我想成为最好的球手， Said, "I wanna be the best.
我想去的学校能够让我面对最好的对手。” I wanna go to a school where I play against the best."
超新星降临南加州大 Superstar phenom is coming to USC
所有的话题和目光都围绕着他 and all the buzz that goes around with it.
这是玛格丽特·辛普森 This is Marguerite Simpson.
她和OJ刚刚结婚5个月 She and O.J. have been married for five months now.
是的 Right.
5个月了你幸福吗？ Are you happy after five months?
是的，我非常幸福 Yes, I'm very happy.
你喜欢这里吗？ And do you like this campus and everything?
我喜欢，这里就像个景区，美极了 I love it. It's like a resort. It's beautiful.
现在，你给我们说实话，玛格丽特，OJ到底是什么样的人？ Now, you tell us the truth, Marguerite. What kind of guy is O.J.?
OJ非常认真，他热爱橄榄球 O.J. is very serious. He loves football.
他就是一个严谨的人 And he's just a serious person.
他跑动的感觉非常敏锐 He has a great running sense.
从球队的角度，他非常出色 Uh, as a team man, he's an outstanding person.
从为人的角度，他是一个正直的年轻人 As a citizen, he is a tremendous boy and, uh,
我不记得见过比他最棒的人 I don't think we've had a boy around here who has ever been any better.
呜哇！站起来！ Whoo! Get up!
OJ从一开始就展现了毋庸置疑的才华 It was pretty obvious early on that O.J. was a superiorathlete, special,
麦凯教练对他则爱护有加 and Coach McKay was warmer and closer with him.
他从来没有拥有过这种级别的球员，所以小心翼翼 He had never had a player of this caliber. And you didn't mess with it.
将他护于羽下 He protected him.
强尼，你会用毁灭性来形容 Johnny, would you describe that devastating
南加大球队的攻击力吗？ Southern Cal offensive attack for us?
这个，达菲，我不……我不确定威力有多大 Well, Duffy, I don't... I don't know how devastating it is, but our attack
我们的攻击火力都围绕着，跑锋OJ辛普森部署，冲球 is built around the, uh, tailback, O.J. Simpson, running a football.
我认为面对任何对手我们都能保持将球向前推进 We think our attack will be able to let us move the ball on most people.
既不投机也不取巧 There was no drama.
强·麦凯只管把球交给辛普森 John McKay was gonna give him the football,
让他场均持球数达到35到40次 and he was gonna give it to him 35, 40 times a game
对手会拼命拦截他 and you were gonna tackle him.
一但拦不下来，结果就是一次达阵得分 And then when you missed, we were gonna score a touchdown.
所以我们一个劲儿的喂他球，喂他喂他…… So we fed him the football, fed him the football...
他就像个永动机 He had incredible stamina,
一次又一次地不停表现 （史蒂夫·勒梅尔 南加大队友） that he could take the ball every play and keep on going.
每一次他献出神来之笔 Every game he did something that was eye-opening.
你都在脑子里吼“我去！我刚刚看到了啥！” You... "What? Did I see that?"
他是属于另外一个级别的 He was one of a kind.
这是OJ辛普森，南加大的三年级跑锋 This is O.J. Simpson, USC's junior halfback.
你现在接到了来自各界的巨大关注 You have been getting an awful lot of publicity lately.
这会给你怎样的影响？会不会造成困扰？ How does it affect you? Does it bother ya?
哦，完全不存在一点困扰 Oh, it doesn't bother me at all.
这是……这是胜利的副产品，我想 It's... It's a matter of winning, I guess.
当你获取胜利，你就会获取关注 If you win, you get publicity,
本来球队也需要有人作为代表站出来面对公众 and they have to give someone in our offense and on our team publicity,
而我正好又打了一个容易成为焦点的位置 and, uh, I'm just in a position to get it,
作为球队主力跑锋，不停地冲球前进 running at the tailback and carrying the ball as much as I do.
OJ，周六的比赛意义非凡 O.J., you've got an awful big game on Saturday.
又是面对同城死敌，一定压力山大 It's the big intercity rivalry. There's just all kind of pressure.
压力会给你怎样的影响？ How does the pressure affect you?
这个，恩……我不知道 Well, uh, I don't know.
我不觉得压力会成为什么问题…… I don't think the pressure bothers...
它不会影响我的发挥 It doesn't bother me and...
我想我们全队都是这样，它不会影响大家的发挥 and I think most of the team right now, it's not bothering them yet.
我相信我们明天一定能行 I'm sure it will tomorrow.
我们这周过得很放松 We're shooting for all the marbles this week,
恩，我觉得我们已经放下包袱，准备战斗 and, uh, I think we'll be relaxed and ready to go.
南加大橄榄球不是关乎生死 USC football is not a matter of life and death.
它远比生死还要重要 It's much more important than that.
浓烈的气氛和色彩，这是怎样的场面 Live and in color, you are looking at this view,
当你俯瞰座无虚席的纪念球场 hovering above the Memorial Coliseum which is jam packed today.
当我们看着加里·贝班 我们会赞叹大学橄榄球 As we look at Gary Beban, a reminder that college football,
是以怎样的一种美妙的方式来过一个秋日的下午 a pleasant and colorful way to spend an autumn afternoon.
加州大学洛杉矶分校的四分卫加里·贝班 UCLA's quarterback was Gary Beban.
这是将带给他海斯曼奖杯（大学橄榄球最佳球员）的一个赛季 It's gonna be his year for the Heisman Trophy.
我们即将见证一个飞速崛起的跑锋 So we have the upcomer running back
对阵一个成名已久的超级四分卫 against the established superstar quarterback.
我们全国排名第4，他们排名第1 We were ranked number 4, they were ranked number 1.
一座城市，两支全国最好的球队 The city of Los Angeles, the two top teams in the country,
而我们将为夺取全国冠军而战 and we're fighting for the national championship.
今天现场有10台摄像机全程摄像 Today with 10 cameras covering this game,
超过200名记者到场，带着超过200台照相机 over 200, uh, newsmen here, 200 photographers.
有人早上6点就来了 There were people out here this morning at 6 o'clock
希望能进场观战 trying to get in to the ballgame.
比赛开始 And the ballgame is underway.
我还没有现场看过大学橄榄球比赛 I had never been to a college game ever.
当时大家伙就想去看OJ And we all wanted to go see O.J.
为特洛伊人（南加大队名）出战的焦点，32号，OJ辛普森 Offensively now for the Trojans, watch for number 32, O.J. Simpson.
我们都没有球票 None of us had any tickets.
突然间有人在球场外的围栏上开了个口子 All of a sudden, we looked up and someone had cut a hole
我们随着50多个家伙冲了进去 in the Coliseum fence and about 50 people ran through it, including us.
好了，巴德，离上半场结束还有接近9分钟 Okay, Bud, we have approximately 9 minutes remaining in the first half.
我从来没有见过这个球场挤成这样 I'd never seen the Coliseum full like that.
大片大片的色彩，让我目眩 There was just the colors, I was in awe.
比分持平，他们攻入了洛杉矶分校的半场，史蒂夫·索契把球交给辛普森 Tie ballgame, and they are in UCLA territory. Steve Sogge. Simpson.
这就是他的能力，13码，达阵 There's his brilliance. Thirteen yards. Touchdown.
一个天资超凡的球手，32号，OJ辛普森 A tremendously gifted athlete, number 32, O.J. Simpson.
所有人都喜欢看OJ跑球 Everybody loved watching O.J. run.
当你通过慢镜回放 As we look at it in slow motion...
你会发现他独有的“舞姿” There was something about his style.
OJ辛普森 O.J. Simpson.
我当时觉得：“我去，如果我有这家伙一半有才 I said, "Man, if I could but run half as well as this guy,
就已经吃穿不愁了” I might be all right."
贝班一个深远的长传找到了考佩兰 Beban hooking. Deep and long to Copeland.
洛杉矶分校扳平了比分 UCLA has tied it up.
纳托进去了 There is Nuttall.
达阵！洛杉矶分校 Touchdown, UCLA.
比赛还剩下11分40秒，洛杉矶分校反超了比分 And with 11 minutes and 40 seconds left in the game UCLA gets the lead.
我们比分落后，我们没有放弃 We were losing. And we were fighting.
OJ辛普森身怀绝技，32号 O.J. Simpson is deep. Number 32.
他今天势不可当 And he's determined.
我们打得比他们好 We were outplaying them,
比分反而落后，我们非常郁闷 and we were very angry that we were not winning that game.
30码，还在前进 Thirty. Moving away,
一口气让他冲到了34码线 and sheer sake of effort brings him out to the 34-yard line.
我们一直没有转机，直到那一次冲球 Things weren't going our way until that run.
能不能手捧玫瑰碗，巴德，在此一举 Rose Bowl bid, Bud, is at stake.
你为之奋斗了一年的梦想 Everything that they've fought for all year,
全部系于一线，克里斯，栓在这最后的时刻里 it's coming down to the wire now, Chris. These final minutes.
取得4码后，球在本方的36码线 At the 36-yard line, a 4-yard gain,
第三档特洛伊人必须拿到3码 it'll be third down at three for the Trojans.
教练指示传球 It was a pass play.
他们需要前进3码 They need three yards.
开球前四分卫改变了战术，有人没有听到 In the audible, and some guys missed the audible.
我没有听到，我犯了一个错误，开球之后我站起来做了一个阻挡动作 I couldn't hear it. I made a mistake. I stood up to pass block.
对方的线卫察觉了我的意图，后退了一步应对传球 The linebacker read me and backed into his passing zone,
在那一瞬间给OJ创造了一个缺口 and that opened up a lane for O.J.
然后他展现了他的神迹 And he did his magic.
首档达成，辛普森没有停下来的意思 First down and more. There's Simpson.
好一个变向！OJ辛普森！ Look at that cut! O.J. Simpson!
她这样写道 All she wrote.
64码，码码惊心，步步动魂 64 yards. 64 thrilling, captivating, collegiate football yards,
让我们再看一次，哇奥 and let's look at that one again. Wow.
我不记得见过谁可以这样，克里斯 Don't recall seeing anybody that can turn it on like this boy, Chris.
如果你是一个60年代末期的橄榄球迷，别人问你 If you were a football fan in the late '60s and someone said to you,
“你记得‘那次跑球’吗？”他指的就只能是那一次跑球 （杰弗瑞·托宾 作家） "Do you remember the run," it was just one run.
OJ一跑封神 That set O.J. apart from everyone.
他的速度超过所有人，轻轻松松 He's so much faster, it makes no difference.
那一跑至今仍是大学橄榄球的标志之一 That single play is still felt to be one of the greatest college plays.
他立刻红遍全国 He became an instant national star.
洛杉矶一个人权领袖说过 A civil rights leader in Los Angeles has said
如果你是一个向往大都市的老黑 if you are going to be a negro in a big city,
洛杉矶是最佳的选择 then, Los Angeles is the best place to be.
洛杉矶在大家心中是美好的化身 The image of Los Angeles was milk and honey.
洛杉矶没有偏见和歧视，每个人都可以做自己想做的事情 There's no prejudice in Los Angeles. Everybody's free to do what they will.
你知道吗，棕榈树、阳光，宛如梦境 You know, palm trees and sunshine. It's just the ultimate place.
所以谁要是想去什么地方，至少在我所在的区域里 And anybody who was trying to go somewhere, at least in my area,
你知道吗，他们的目的地通常就是洛杉矶 you know, they were going to Los Angeles.
加州对老黑的吸引力 There is no group in America to whom California has meant more
远远超出了美国其他城市 than it has to the negroes.
就在1940年到1960年的20年间 In the two decades between 1940 and 1960,
当洛杉矶的其他人群数量增长了1倍时， while the population of all other groups in Los Angeles went up by 100 percent,
黑人群体增长了6倍 the negro population went up by 600 percent.
这些人都是打哪来的？ Where do the people come from?
德州、路易斯安那州、佐治亚州…… People come from the states of Texas, Louisiana, Georgia...
憧憬着之前遭遇过的事在这里不会发生 The hope is that all the trouble I've known will be gone.
一二三四五六七，我们不要大隔离！ 2, 4, 6, 8, we don't wanna integrate!
我不再遭受种种歧视 I will no longer be held down by this notion
只是因为我的肤色和毛发 （沃特尔·莫斯利 瓦茨居民） held against my skin and my hair.
更直接一点，我能趁着这里的高速发展找到工作 More literally, I can get work because it's growing so fast here.
我能安家落户 And I can buy a house,
没人能够因为我的肤色而将我赶走 and nobody's ever gonna come take it away from me because I'm black.
这是在美国南部你连想都不敢想的 This is something that you didn't have in the deep South.
辛普森一家来自路易斯安那州的罗德萨 The Simpsons are from Rodessa, Louisiana.
我的父母和他的父母，他们在一个200英亩的农场里长大 （德怀特·塔克 表哥） My parents and his parents, they grew up on a 200-acre farm.
尽管他们拥有土地，但对黑人来说所有出路都是堵死的 Although they had land, there was no opportunity for people of color,
所以所有人都想着“远走高飞” so everybody "got out of Dodge", as they say.
OJ和我47年在旧金山出生 O.J. and I were born in San Francisco in '47.
他充满抱负 He had aspirations.
他知道他想要出人头地 He knew that he wanted to better his circumstances,
而洛杉矶就是不二的选择 and LA was the place to do that.
我也怀着希望来到这里 I moved out here looking for opportunities.
我外婆给了我67美金路费 My grandmother gave me 67 dollars for a ticket,
我母亲给了我65美金开销 and my mother gave me 65 dollars to spend,
我跳上单程飞机来到这里 and I got on a plane, one-way ticket.
假如我有回程的钱，我可能早就打道了 If I had the money, I would've gone back home,
因为到了这里才知道这里有多惨 'cause it was very, very troubling once I got out here.
这里的种族歧视和南方别无二样 Racism out here was as stark as it was in Jim Crow South.
你在这里拥有的可能和家乡一样少 You don't really have any more power out here than you had there.
每个人对警察都闻风色变 Everybody was always conscious of the police.
你是杰克·格兰特的朋友？ You a friend of Jack Grant's?
为什么这么问？ Why?
杰克·格兰特是你的朋友吗？ Jack Grant a friend of yours?
我无可奉告 I'm not gonna tell ya.
我从小看着洛城警局长大 I grew up watching the Los Angeles Police Department.
他们总是穿戴整齐 训练有素 （大卫·加斯科 洛城警局） They just were so sharp and professional all the time,
如果你看过关于他们的描述 if you watched things that depicted them.
我是洛城警局的摩尔警督 I'm Lieutenant Moore of the Los Angeles Police Department.
绝不，我们绝对不走 Hell, no, we won't go.
如果你们再不离开，我们将逮捕你们 If you do not leave now, you will be arrested
因为你们违反了条例602-J for violation of section 602-J.
他们总是整装待发 They were just always squared away.
内部的风气清正严明 The institutional culture was really clear.
你应该是最好的，你应该是最有素的 We expected you to be the best, we expected you to be professional.
不像30、40年代 It's not like it was in the '30s and '40s.
警员的腐败问题 Police officers don't take bribes.
已经被帕克局长清扫一空 There's none of that stuff, that had been cleaned up by Chief Parker.
帕克局长把一个烂摊子 Chief Parker turned a very corrupt police department
整肃得风清气正 into what was viewed as a very honest police department,
他同时也树立了一种说一不二的威严 but with that he brought a level of being untouchable.
警察学校的血统一白到底 Everything at the police academy was white,
从管理者到教员全是白人 in the sense of command staff, officers, all the trainers were white.
比尔·帕克，坊间传说他 Bill Parker was reputed
曾经到三K党里面去招募警员 to have actually recruited police officers from the Klan rallies,
我想他，从最低限度来说，至少对种族问题视而不见 I think he, at minimum, was racially insensitive,
说得更严重一点，他就是个种族主义者 at maximum, he was racist.
比尔·帕克的警员们响应迅速 Police officers under Bill Parker would respond to a radio call,
迅速抓捕麻烦分子 （吉姆·纽顿 记者《洛杉矶时报》） they would go snatch the person who was causing trouble,
扔上车，抓起走 put 'em in the car, take 'em out and leave.
所以警局与公众的交流 So their interaction with the community
几乎只有抓捕这一种形式 was almost entirely based on apprehension,
于是大家对他们的印象就像驻扎的部队一样 and that's where the notion of an occupying army comes from.
简单说，就是受够了你们白人的摆布 Just getting tired of being pushed around by you white people, that's all.
你们当街盘查，穿门入户 You stoppin' us on the street, kickin' down the doors,
带到局子里就是拳脚伺候 takin' down to the police station, you're kicking our teeth in.
是这样，他把我扔进车里，他就开始拳打脚踢 Well, he took me in the car and, uh, he just started getting on me.
你们有打起来吗？ But was there a fight?
我双手都被拷着怎么打请问？ How can I fight with my hands stuck?
怨声在四处响起 The complaint that you hear everywhere is that the negro
警察对待老黑并不像对待…… is not getting the same treatment from the police as the...
是的，我知道，我都有点厌烦了 Well, I know, but I'm getting a little bit weary of that,
然后我觉得可能最好的办法 and I think perhaps the best thing to do
就是把警员们撤出这个区域 is just to pull the police out of the area.
我一遍又一遍地提出这个建议 I've offered to do that again and again,
但他们总是会很快变卦，然后说 but you see how quick they are to come back and say,
“我们不能承担与之带来的后果” "We can't afford to have that."
老黑们不再忍受，有一股力量在苏醒 The negroes are stepping up, they're waking up,
他们将要对白人的压迫做出反应 and they're gonna do something about what the white man did to them.
我不害怕流血，为了争取权利需要献出生命？我愿意 I'm not afraid of bloodshed. If I have to die for my rights, I will.
在全国第三大城市中心的54平方英里土地上 54 square miles in the middle of the nation's third-largest city.
没有人预料会积压如此惊人的能量 No one expected the flashpoint of discontent to be
以致蔓延到洛杉矶城平屋密布的方圆450平方英里 in the sprawling, bungalow'd 450 square miles of Los Angeles.
引爆它只需要一颗火星 This is when a fuse was lighted.
一切开始于白人警察对两个黑人青年的抓捕 It began with the arrest by white officers of two young negroes,
一个被控醉酒驾车，另一个是他的兄弟 one on a charge of drunk driving, the other his brother.
他们的母亲赶到了现场 Their mother came to the scene.
先是争执，然后是抓扯 There was an argument, there was a scuffle.
下一刻，几百个黑人聚集了起来 By then, a crowd of several hundred negroes had gathered.
一时间警察的暴行在社群里口口相传 The story of police brutality quickly spread through the community.
瓦茨骚乱，我那时10岁，天啊 （卡尔·道格拉斯 洛杉矶本地人） The Watts riots. I was 10 years old, man.
那是在夏天，很热 It was summer, it was hot,
白人警察已经不拿我们当人很长时间了 and white policemen had been treating us like shit forever.
我们忍无可忍，无需再忍 And we were gonna respond.
白痴警察投入了过多的警力 The police in their idiocy responded with too much force
而又搞不清楚状况，事态开始失控 and not enough understanding, and it mushroomed.
我怕极了 I was nervous.
人们尖叫着，有人开枪 There were people screaming, people shooting,
有人躺在地上，一动不动 people lying on the ground, not moving.
那些警察，四个四个的躲在车里，拿着散弹枪 The police, four-deep in a car, all holding up shotguns.
瓦茨骚乱是洛杉矶建市以来的第一次被电视 The Watts riot was one of the first major events in the city of LA
全程播报的重大事件 that was caught on TV.
那些在南方长大的人早已习惯这样的运动 People who grew up looking at those kinds of activities in the South,
这就是种族隔离的常态 they thought that's where all of the racial divide was.
而洛杉矶稍有不同的地方就是（警方）没有放狗 The only thing was missing in LA, there weren't dogs.
举起手来，站起来，手举起来，走 Hands up there. Get 'em up. Get your hands up. Let's go.
我回到家，我父亲坐在那里，一脸阴沉，他说 I got home and my father was sitting there, upset, and he says,
“你知道吗，沃特尔，他们都上街去了，暴动” "You know, Walter, they're out there, riot."
他接着说：“我也想去，我感同身受，那种愤怒 And he says, "I wanna do that. I feel that. I feel that anger.
我知道这样不对，所以我不能去，但我真的想去。” I know it's wrong, so I can't do it. But I want to."
我当时没觉得是多大事 I didn't think it was a big deal.
我不觉得那些人受到了“迫害” I didn't think these people were, quote, "persecuted".
我不觉得那些人遭遇了什么问题，他们闹个啥？ I didn't think these people had any problem. Why were they rioting?
我就像其他白人一样无知 I was as naïve as any other white person.
这个区域已经被隔离，请速速回家 This area is being closed. Please go in your homes.
瓦茨事件后，很多白人开始问 The question came down from white people after Watts.
“黑人都有这样的感觉吗？” They said, "Do most black people feel like this?"
回答是 And the answer came back,
“大约99%的人是这样，另外1%的人已经失去理智” "About 99 percent of them feel like this. And one percent are really mad."
到底是什么地方出了问题才造成了这样的状况？ In creating this situation, where was the failure?
在这样特定的城市、角落，甚至学校？ On the part of the city, the county, the schools?
这个问题本身就足以说明问题 This, sir, I think, is one of the difficulties in meeting this,
我们还在探求客观，而不是从主观上去寻找答案 is that we're trying to find a failure other than the people themselves.
他们蜂拥而至，而这些社区 They came in and... and flooded a community
还没有做好准备接受他们 that wasn't prepared to meet them.
我们并没有邀请他们来啊 We didn't ask these people to come here.
只要（白人们）不改变他们的固执与偏见 So long as this stubborn attitude is maintained,
事态只会继续恶化（马丁路德金） I can only see the situation worsening.
我到现在都好像还能闻到硝烟的味道 I can still smell the smoulderings of that event.
到处都是恐慌 （马克·莱德利·托马斯 中南部人） There was nervousness all over the place
最终成为整个群体一道永远的伤痕 that would ultimately translate into traumatizing an entire community.
你们最好还是停止骚乱 Better to make all the rioting stop.
我不认为有停下来的一天，真的 I don't think it'll ever stop, really.
永远？ Ever?
而那个让OJ辛普森的声望 And the institution that gave life to O.J. Simpson's image
遍及全国的地方，正坐落于 and presence nationally and beyond was located
发生骚乱的同一个区域 right in the middle of that very same neighborhood.
南加大是一个偏安一隅的美丽学校，紧邻纪念球场 USC was an isolated, beautiful school right next to the LA Coliseum
球场的另一侧就是洛杉矶贫民区，基本上就是瓦茨地区 and on the other side were the slums of LA. Basically Watts.
学校里的每一个人都被告知不要靠近球场的另一侧 Everyone was warned not to go down on that side of the Coliseum.
在南加州大学 At the University of Southern California,
他们有一个活着的传奇正在参加返校活动 they have a living legend, and at homecoming,
他们只想谈论关于他的话题 that's all they wanna talk about.
传奇的名字就是OJ辛普森 The name of the legend is O.J. Simpson.
当你在校园里看到他，你会惊呼：“哇奥！那是OJ” When you saw him on campus, it was like, "Wow! There's O.J.!"
然后你大概会走上前去打个招呼：“好样的OJ！” And you might go up and wave and say, "Way to go, O.J.,"
然后他会回报你一个灿烂的笑容 （乔·索兹曼 南加大教授） and he'd give you a big smile,
然后你就会感觉飘飘然 and you felt like you were a million dollars.
感觉太棒了“OJ辛普森跟我打了招呼” You felt fantastic. "O.J. Simpson said "hi" to me!"
[笑]就是这样 [Chuckles] Yeah.
嘿，OJ，你好吗？……怎么样？ Hey, O.J., how are ya? How's it... ?
努力中 Working hard.
希望你周六一切顺利 I hope you're gonna be smiling Saturday.
是啊，还有四五天时间，我会的 Yeah, in about four days or five. I plan to.
对于大部分南加大的学生，我怀疑，OJ辛普森 For most of the USC students, I wager, O.J. Simpson
是他们初次接触到的活的非裔美国人 was the first African-American they really got to see and talk to.
因为他们大部分人之前连听都没有听说过非裔美国人 Because most of them didn't know African-Americans at all,
或者其他有色人种 or any person of color.
我们是！南加！ We are! SC!
南加大是一个橄榄球学校，是一个好莱坞学校 USC was a football school, it was a Hollywood school,
有的是象牙和浮华 it was glamour and glitz,
他不像加州大伯克利校区 it was not the University of California at Berkeley.
它不像圣何塞州立 It was not San Jose State.
抗争，抗争，抗争，抗争！ Fight, fight, fight, fight!
它完全隔绝于整个人权运动 It was above and beyond reach of the movement.
OJ于1967年去到南加大，他彻底与黑人群体绝缘 （乔·贝尔 童年伙伴） O.J. went to USC in 1967, so he's plucked out of the black community,
也与黑人意识绝缘，彻底沉浸于这个纯白人的环境中 out of black consciousness, and he's submerged in an all-white university.
我可以这样说，不开玩笑 And I say this, and I don't say it facetiously,
他被白人社会引诱了 but he is seduced by white society.
南加大控制着洛杉矶的电视、好莱坞、银行、金融 USC controls TV, Hollywood, banking, finance,
法律和医疗 law and medicine in Los Angeles.
它的校友们有权有势，他们无时无刻不 The alumni are very powerful, and their whole existence
追随着那支橄榄球队 revolves around the success of the football team.
而OJ则带领这支球队走向荣耀 And O.J. is leading them to glory.
正是这样充满权势的环境 It was that type of school with that type of power and control
对他产生着最直接的冲击 that could be directed towards him.
那个黑人被洗脑了 The black man has been brainwashed,
（拳王阿里）是时候让他真正认识自己了 and it's time for him to learn something about himself.
“黑人”这个词是属于特定时代的 The word "black" is a part of the times.
我们折服于街上黑人们的诉求 We are succumbing to the demands of the black man in the street
他们说“黑奴”应该消亡，而“黑人”应该重生 who says that the negro is dead and the black man is alive.
我从一出生就进入了这样的世界 It was a condition that I was born into;
不公、歧视、仇恨 （吉姆·布朗 克利夫兰布朗队名人堂跑锋） the unfairness, the racism, the hatred,
贫穷充斥着这个国家 the poverty that we had in this country.
你不可能背负着这些去做一个橄榄球英雄 You can't balance that with being a football hero.
就在60年代，社会问题已经不可避免的进入到体育领域 （罗伯特·利普斯特 记者《纽约时报》） In the '60s, societal issues were pushing their way into sports.
我被告知有两个选项 It has been said that I have two alternatives,
（拳王阿里）要么坐牢，要么从军 either go to jail or go to the army.
运动员们团结了起来 There was this engagement of the athlete.
一些体育明星挺身而出 Some major athletes stood up.
9个黑人运动员和卡希尔斯·克雷（拳王阿里）会面 Nine top negro athletes meet with Cassius Clay
讨论他的反征兵声明 to discuss his anti-draft stand.
这里面包括比尔·拉塞尔、卢·阿辛德（贾巴尔） They include Bill Russell, Lou Alcindor,
以及前橄榄球全明星吉米·布朗 and former pro-footballer Jimmy Brown.
那间屋里的每一个人都是一名战士 Every man in that room was a soldier.
每一个人只为着坚守信念 Every man in that room, for nothing other than his beliefs
支持同胞兄弟，去做正确的事 and backing another brother, felt that he should be there
让“后果”见鬼去吧 and the hell with the consequences.
吉米·布朗、比尔·拉塞尔、阿里，都是人权斗士 Jim Brown, Bill Russell, Ali, for sure, were race men.
他们为了真理而战 They stood up for principle
甘愿放弃自己的广告收益 and damaged their commercial possibilities.
他们呛声种族歧视 They pointed to the discrimination,
这样的声音不止来自黑人，而且来自黑人运动员 not only of all blacks, but of black athletes,
他们已经属于社会的获利者 of people who were supposedly given entitlement in America.
你本应感到满足，甚至感恩戴德 At the time you were supposed to be satisfied. Or grateful.
为什么一个吃穿不愁 Why would someone that's making money
被8万观众拥戴的人还要抱怨？ and cheered by 80,000 people be complaining?
就我的理解，就是为了公平，为了正义 For me, it was really a matter of fairness and what is correct.
美利坚大言不惭地宣称自己 The United States has hypocritically put itself up
是这个世界上自由的象征，然而就在这个国度里 as the leader of the free world, while right here in this country
有2千2百万黑人同胞正遭受着 there are 22 million black people who are catching more hell
那些社会主义国家的人们难以想象的苦难 than anyone in any communist country ever dreamed of.
黑人男女运动员，不论专业还是业余 Black men and women athletes, professional and amateur,
一致同意并致力于 have unanimously voted to fully endorse and participate
抵制1968年的（墨西哥）奥运会 in a boycott of the World Olympic Games in 1968.
在西岸掀起的这场运动中 The movement on the West Coast recently
卢·阿辛德（贾巴尔）声明自己可能不会参加奥运会 in which Lou Alcindor supposedly said he might not play in the Olympics.
你怎么看？ What are your thoughts?
这个嘛，这个是他的权力 Well, um... Well, this is his prerogative.
我不太明白情况 I'm not too well enlightened on the situation.
我不知道他们到底想要干什么 I don't know exactly what they're trying to do, you know.
把奥运和人权运动结合 The whole idea behind the Olympic Project for Human Rights
是为了让精英运动员 was to escalate the relationship between elite athletes
和人权领袖的联系更加紧密 and the civil rights movement.
（马丁路德金）我郑重声明我完全支持这次抵制 Let me say that I absolutely support this boycott.
我也想要呼吁这些优秀的运动员们 I would also like to commend the outstanding athletes
满怀勇气地表明抵制的立场 who have the courage to make it clear that they will not participate
除非这些可怕的罪恶和不公得以改善 unless something is done about these terrible evils and injustices.
人们也联系了OJ，因为他是 O.J. was approached because he was
当时大学运动届最耀眼的名字 the biggest name in collegiate athletics at that time.
他同样还是保持世界纪录的田径明星 He was also a world record-holding track star.
所以可说一石二鸟 So here we got two for one.
当我请求他的时候，我说我们正在试图让黑人运动员 When I asked him, I said we were trying to get black athletes
明白他们在这场人权运动中应当承担的使命 to understand they have a role in the current civil rights movement,
他的回答是：“我不是黑人，我是OJ” his response was, "I'm not black. I'm O.J."
我猜，他们所想的是正确的吧，他们必须追随信念 What they think is right, I guess, they must follow their beliefs.
这个，恩……现在我不想参与其中，因为 Well, uh, right now I don't wanna be involved in it, because,
恩，我现在没有从事田径，你知道，我能跑，但 uh, I'm not in track. You know, I'm running track, but when it...
奥运会举办的时候，我要打橄榄球 when it comes to Olympic time, I'll be in football,
所以对于此事我保留我的意见 so I have no comment on the matter.
OJ常说：“我不想被自己的肤色所定义 O.J. was saying, "I want to be judged not by the color of my skin,
我想要人们通过我的个性 I want to be judged by the content of my character
以及更重要的，通过我的运动成就来认识我 and. Most of all, the caliber of my competence.
我认为我是这个国家有史以来最伟大的橄榄球员 I think I'm the greatest football player that this country's ever seen.
那就是我想要展现的形象 That's all I wanna be judged by.
不要告诉我因为我是黑人我就要参与其中” Don't tell me I've gotta do this because I'm black."
我觉得橄榄球是一项美妙的运动，它教给我们很多 I think football is a great sport. It teaches a person an awful lot.
我想说没有一项运动比它更为公正 I would say there's less prejudice in sports than any other field anywhere,
因为，你做好自己 就能获得承认 because, uh, it just... you're accepted as what you are,
知道吗，一个运动员的身份以及你的能力 you know, an athlete and what you can do,
我觉得对所有人都是如此 and I think this is good for anyone.
辛普森1968年带球跑出了1709码的成绩 Simpson rushed for 1709 yards in 1968,
超越了历史上的所有跑锋 more than any other back in history.
他对运动状态的保持和他的速度和灵巧一样堪称传奇 His durability is almost as legendary as his speed and moves.
辛普森斩获了22次达阵 Simpson scored 22 touchdowns.
他的持球数达到了创纪录的355次，他证明了自己坚不可摧 He carried a record 355 times and proved himself nearly indestructible.
他给自己构建了一个特殊的世界 He was in a different world than the rest of us.
这个世界里充满他独有的元素，不断积累、发酵、演变 There was an O.J. cult. It was building, building, building.
当你需要邀请一个学生运动员来这里，他们想要的就是OJ When you bring a student athlete in there on a visit, they wanna see O.J.
社区领袖们为了广积人脉，他们也需要OJ The community leaders, for speaking engagements, they wanted O.J.
他们需要一个道德模范，他们需要小孩们都来看他 They wanted a role model. They wanted the young black kids to see.
我16岁那年，我成为了洛杉矶（社区）橄榄球全明星 When I was 16 years old, I made an all-star team down in Los Angeles
他们举办了一个餐会，当我们正在吃饭时 and they had a banquet, and while we were eating,
活动主办人在台上说 the guy who was running the whole show, he says,
下面，我想介绍今天的特别嘉宾 OJ辛普森 "Okay, I wanna introduce the guest speaker tonight, O.J. Simpson."
然后我心想，哇塞！竟然是OJ，不可思议 And I was like, "Wow!" I said, "O.J.'s here. This is unbelievable."
当OJ走上台，他开口就说 O.J., when he walked up, he said,
在我开始之前，我想问荣·西普在吗？ "First of all, before I start, is Ron Shipp here?"
我举起手来，心里不停问：这是真的吗这是真的吗 I put my hand up. I was like, "Is this... ? Is this for real?"
他接着问：你是迈克尔·西普的弟弟？我说，是的 And he goes, "Are you the brother of Michael Shipp?" And I say, "Yes."
他说，大家好！我想告诉大家 And he goes, "Hey, everybody, I just wanna tell you about,
迈克尔·西普，他的哥哥 uh, Michael Shipp, his brother,
我们以前曾经一起练球，他是个很棒的家伙 we played against each other, he's a great guy,
等等，所以，荣，如果你和你哥哥有相似的地方…… so on and so, Ron, if you're anything like your brother, you know... "
就这样，他让我立马成了屋子里的英雄 and, like, he made me an instant hero in that room.
我也立马对他产生了敬仰 I mean, I fell in love with the guy right then.
他真是个了不起的人啊！ This is the most incredible human being.
下面有请我们的明星：鲍勃·霍普 Here is the star of our show, Bob Hope.
我无法用语言形容，多么激动地来到了OJ大学 I don't have to tell you it's a pleasure to be here at OJU.
来到南加大我很高兴 But it's wonderful to be here at USC.
你们这没有骚乱、没有示威，甚至连静坐都没有 You haven't had a riot, a demonstration or even a sit in.
你们确定这是一个大学？ Are you sure this is a college?
我有一个心碎的消息 I have some very sad news for all of you.
马丁·路德·金今晚在孟菲斯遇刺身亡 Martin Luther King was shot and was killed tonight in Memphis.
节目开始前我一直试图和OJ交谈 I tried to talk to O.J. before the show,
但我想他似乎对什么事牵肠挂肚 but I guess he has something on his mind.
他总是叫我“海斯曼先生”（海斯曼奖） He kept referring to me as Mr. Heisman.
（罗伯特·弗朗西斯·肯尼迪遇刺事件） RFK, RFK, RFK! RFK, RFK, RFK!
（雅皮们兴起叫警察为猪） 猪！猪！猪！猪！ Pigs, pigs, pigs, pigs!
OJ 你度过一个非凡的赛季 O.J., you've had quite a season.
这个，我是跑了一点码数 Well, I have gained a few yards.
一点码数？你圈的地比霍华德·休斯还要多！ A few yards? You've gobbled up more real estate than Howard Hughes.
当你想到1968年，什么印象最深？ When you think of 1968, what do you think of?
1968年，我们赢得了一切，让OJ名满天下 1968, I think of winning all the games, getting O.J. famous,
校园里每一个人都认为这是世界上最美的事 everybody on campus thinking it's the greatest thing on earth.
那就是一切，世间发生的事都与我们无关 That's all we thought about. There was nothing else going on.
数家欧洲报纸今日撰文谴责 Several European newspapers today condemned
国际奥委会驱逐 the International Olympic Committee for sending home
两名激进的黑人运动员离开美国队 two militant negro athletes from the United States.
这两人，汤米·史密斯和强·卡洛斯 The two, Tommie Smith and John Carlos,
获得了200米项目第一名和第三名 who ran first and third in the 200-meter dash,
他们遭到的惩罚是因为他们在播放国歌时 were banished after they raised clenched fists in black gloves
高举紧握的戴着黑色手套的拳头所致 during the playing of The Star Spangled Banner.
[歌词]啊，忠于坏坏的自我 ♪Uh, with your bad self! ♪
[歌词]大声喊出 ♪Say it loud! ♪
[歌词]我黑我骄傲 ♪I'm black, and I'm proud! ♪
我不相信国歌里的唱词 I didn't believe in the national anthem,
但我还是站了上去，因为我不想招致非议 but I stood up anyway, because I didn't want no static,
但那样的日子一去不返了 but those days are gone.
正中！ Right on.
兄弟汤米·史密斯，兄弟强尼·卡洛斯，还有兄弟哈利·爱德华兹 Brother Tommie Smith, Brother Johnny Carlos and Brother Harry Edwards
走入了穆罕穆德·阿里的行列 join the ranks of Brother Muhammed Ali,
因为我们需要黑人同胞首先考虑社群的利益 because we want black people who are concerned with us first
其次才是体育 and with sports second.
对！ Yeah!
[歌词]大声喊出 ♪Say it loud! ♪
[歌词]我黑我骄傲 ♪I'm black, and I'm proud! ♪
今天上午10点左右，我们接到通知 At about, uh, 10 o'clock this morning, we were notified that,
海斯曼奖杯回到了南加大 uh, a Heisman Trophy winner comes back to USC
不出意料，获得者是OJ辛普森 and, as you all know, it's O.J. Simpson.
感谢你们，恩，我……我不知道怎么表达 Thank you. Well, I... I don't know quite what to say.
我感到特别自豪，我非常开心 I'm, uh, certainly proud, and I'm very happy,
这个奖项属于整个球队，属于每一个人 and I'm... I'm taking it as a team award and all the other guys did as much
而我作为团队的代表接受这个荣誉 if not more than I do, for me to get the award,
我非常荣幸成为这个团队的一员 and I'll be glad to see all the guys,
我相信他们每一个人都和我一样高兴 'cause I know they're just as happy as I am.
现在，海斯曼颁奖典礼已经结束 As you can see, the Heisman Trophy award ceremony is over,
南加州大学的32号OJ辛普森 and O.J. Simpson, number 32, the University of Southern California,
正被签名愿求所包围 has been beset by autograph hounds.
辛普森夫人，你能来真好 Mrs. Simpson, I wonder if you'd be good enough to come over.
你的泪水显示了你的骄傲，巨大的骄傲 Your tears only registered your pride, and it's a very great pride,
这一刻属于你，因为这一个了不起的年轻人 and you should enjoy it, because this is a very great young man.
OJ，我们衷心祝贺你，奉献了一个难忘的赛季 O.J., the congratulations of all of us to you for a truly remarkable season
在场内和场外都为我们树立了楷模 and more importantly for your impeccable character.
感谢你，考赛尔先生 Thank you, Mr. Cosell.
以上就是现场发回的 So that's the story.
海斯曼奖对32号OJ辛普森的表彰 The Heisman award proceedings, number 32, O.J. Simpson.
也许是大学橄榄球历史上最好的跑锋 Perhaps the greatest running back in the history of college football.
一见面，我就被他的个性所吸引 When I met him, I was quite taken with him.
大约是1969年7月一个怡人的夜晚 This is kind of a warm June night in 1969.
霍华德·考赛尔带着OJ和我一起去了“三号单身汉” Howard Cosell took O.J. and me to Bachelors III,
乔·纳马什（名人堂四分卫）开的酒吧 which was Joe Namath's bar.
他讲述了自己一次和夫人参加队友婚礼的经历 He was telling a story about being at a teammate's wedding with his wife
他坐在一桌，用他的话讲，“老黑”的旁边 sitting at a table of mostly, as he said, negroes,
他听到邻桌的白人女性在小声说 and you overheard a white woman at the next table saying,
快看！OJ和一群老黑坐在一起 "Look, there's O.J. sitting with all those niggers."
当时我还脑残地和OJ说 And I remember in my naiveté, saying to O.J.,
“我靠，天呐，你一定感觉很不舒服” "Gee, wow, that must have been terrible for you."
“不，那感觉很好，你发现没？ "No, that was great. Don't you understand?
在她眼里，我不是黑人，我是OJ” She knew that I wasn't black. She saw me as O.J."
就这样，在那一瞬间，我知道这人已经有问题了 And... And really, at that moment, um, I thought he was fucked.
我们今晚的第一个嘉宾是我见过的最好的跑锋之一 Our first guest today is one of the greatest running backs I've ever seen.
上次见他他还在南加州大学就读 I met him when he was still in college at Southern California,
他不但是个不可思议的球手，也是个不可思议的人 and he's not only a hell of a football player, he's a hell of a guy.
海斯曼奖获得者，去年全国 The winner of the Heisman trophy, the finest college football player
最好的大学球手 in the country last year,
布法罗比尔队优秀的新秀，OJ辛普森 the Buffalo Bills' great rookie, O.J. Simpson.
[掌声] [Applause]
感谢你，乔 Thank you, Joe.
既然布法罗给了你这么大一笔签约金 Now, with all that money you got for signing with Buffalo,
你可不可以帮兄弟的生意一把 I wanna know if you're gonna help me out in some business interests.
[笑声] [Laughs]
你“钱”景如何？ How's business?
哦，还不错 Oh, it's pretty good.
我刚刚和……我不知道能不能在节目上说 I, uh, I'm under contract with... I don't know if I can say it. I'm here.
你可以说 Yeah.
好吧，我刚签了雪佛兰和荣冠可乐 Well, I'm under contract with Chevrolet and RC Cola,
然后我正在参与的那个什么台来着？ and I'm working with, um... What network is it?
[Laughter]
ABC（美国广播公司） ABC.
所以，我现在确实挺忙的 And, uh, they're keeping me pretty busy.
雪佛兰打的算盘是 The pitch to Chevrolet was
史无前例地聘请一个黑人代言 that this would be the first national black spokesman.
你可以照顾到巨大的黑人消费群 You've got a black market.
白人们对他本不可能会反感 He's not gonna be a negative in any way to the white market,
即便如此他还是得到了各方的赞赏 but you're gonna get a lot of brownie points just for stepping up.
OJ，我非常高兴把一个像你 O.J.? It's a real satisfaction to me to be able to introduce
这么出色的球员 a great ballplayer like you
介绍给同样出色的雪佛兰销售团队 to an equally great group of Chevrolet salesmen.
非常乐意，克里斯 My pleasure, Chris.
在那个时期，运动员代言还很稀少 At the time, athlete endorsements were virtually non-existent.
雪佛兰不但签了，还签了个黑人球手 And for them to sign him, a black man, a football player,
可算一大创举 was ground-breaking.
他们告诉我雪佛兰的销售团队 They tell me that the Chevrolet selling team
是全国最好的，我深信不疑 is the greatest in the country. I believe that.
这一切背后的深层次原因是 That's what made perfect sense.
OJ辛普森是一个非激进的运动员形象 O.J. Simpson was the counterrevolutionary athlete.
白人们正在寻找这样的形象来抵消 White America is looking for somebody who can erase the threat
那些激进的黑人运动员们所造成的影响 of these seemingly angry principled black athletes
他们正在试图掀起体育界的一场运动 who are going to create a revolution in sports.
OJ使人愉快 O.J. made people feel good.
只要与他相处过的人无不同意 It was clear once you spent some time with O.J.
像卡洛斯、黑手套、拳头那一类的情形 that the Carlos, you know, fist pump, and those kinds of, uh,
你在和OJ在一起的时候怎么也不会联想到 situations were not gonna be, you know, present in... in dealing with him.
他让你很放心他一定是一个“懂事”的人 He just gave you that confidence that he understood what this was about.
我很高兴为大家介绍ABC体育频道的新评论员 I'd like to welcome a new member of the ABC sports commentary staff.
OJ辛普森 It is O.J. Simpson.
恩……这个，吉姆，我基本上一直在与体育媒体，恩 Uh, well, Jim, I'll be doing basically sports work with the, uh,
ABC，电视麻体…… 媒体，我希望…… ABC radio networks and the TV nextworks... networks. I hope...
OJ在早期的时候非常生涩，需要很多指导 O.J. was very, very rough and needed a lot of coaching in the early years.
（这份工作）非常有趣，我非常期待 It's pretty interesting, and I'm really looking forward to it.
我们很明确地要求他字正腔圆 We obviously wanted him to be able to speak proper English
注意用语规范，他从来都没有抗拒过 and eliminate slang, and he didn't ever take offense at that.
他总是说“谢谢你”、“好的，我明白了” It was, "Thank you." You know? "Okay, I got it."
他很清楚他的“霍雷肖·阿尔杰式的故事” （出身贫寒，跻身上流） He realized that his Horatio Alger story was based on
完全取决于他能否取悦白人 him being a pleasing person to white people.
我确信他有这样一种强烈的自我认知 I really had the sense that he was enormously self-conscious
关于他原本是谁，以及他需要成为谁 of who he was and who he needed to be to get over.
这个大家看到的角色，OJ，来自他的精心创造 That there was this character, O.J., which he was creating.
OJ是来自什么的缩写？ What does O.J. stand for?
别介！乔 [Laughs] Oh, Joe.
[Laughter]
快点！说出来，告诉我 Come on, tell it. Tell me.
奥瑞修·詹姆斯·辛普森 Orenthal James Simpson.
很好（很‘黑人’） Good.
[Laughter]
你看，这是个不错的名字，奥瑞修 Now, that's a nice name, Orenthal.
是啊 Yeah.
[Laughter]
好名字 It's a good name.
你没有因为这个名字遭遇过任何麻烦，对吧 You... You never got in any arguments over that, did ya?
没有没有，我有一些很好的朋友，一些尊贵的朋友 No, no, I had, uh... I had some pretty good friends, pretty big friends,
他们是唯一拿这个跟我开玩笑的 and they were the only guys who could tease me about it.
那么，进入电影圈的话 Well, in your movie career, uh, motion picture industry,
他们会叫你奥瑞修·詹姆斯，还是……？ are they gonna call you Orenthal James or... ?
他们会叫我OJ They're gonna call me O.J.
[Laughs]
我对OJ最感兴趣的就是这个原创的角色 I was taken by O.J. as a character, as somebody to write about,
这个角色有如此的自觉，有如此的宏愿 that somebody was so self-aware and so obviously ambitious.
我当时的一个疑问持续至今 The question in my mind then and still now is
就是这样的角色原型出自哪里？ where did this imagination come from?
他是从什么时候开始创造出这个角色的？ Where did he begin to write this novel about O.J. Simpson?
现在的旧金山如此国际化 Everybody looks at San Francisco now, "Oh, it's this cosmopolitan...
人人爱人人，肉麻麻的 Oh, you know, everybody loves everybody gooshy goosh."
过去不是的，根本不是这样，好嘛 It's not. It wasn't like that, man.
波特雷罗山几乎就是非裔美国人的天下 Potrero Hill was predominantly African-American.
那些公共住房和海军修建的老式营房 Public housing, the old barracks from the navy.
当海军搬离后，政府把他们变成了廉价住房 When the navy left, the city turned 'em into low-income housing.
那个区域很野 It was a rough area.
辛普森一家住在一个山丘的顶上 The Simpsons lived at the top of a big hill.
他的妹妹，卡梅丽塔和雪莉住一间 Carmelita, his younger sister Shirley had a room,
马文和OJ住一间 and Melvin and O.J. had a room.
我们从牙牙学语就一起厮混 We crawled around on the floor together
早在学会走路之前 before we ever learned how to walk.
中间间隔4个月，我在3月出生，他在7月 Four months apart. I'm born in March, he's born in July.
我们总是待在一块儿，不在我这就在他那 We'd spend a lot of time at each other's house.
两家人关系很亲密 We're a close-knit family.
母亲在夜间工作，他们总是自己照顾自己 （凯文·特尼森 童年伙伴） The mother worked at night, so they were responsible for themselves,
有时候，他会打开冰箱找吃的 and sometimes he would open the refrigerator
然后发现里面空空如也 and there just wouldn't be nothing in there,
我就会说，来来来，到我家去吃饭 and I'd say, "Well, come on, let's go to my house and eat dinner."
OJ的母亲，我的小姨，尤妮丝，通宵达旦 O.J.'s mother, my aunt Eunice, worked the graveyard shift
在旧金山总医院上夜班 at San Francisco General Hospital.
她的收入还算稳定 She was a provider, she was steady,
但是当你身为一个单亲母亲 but if you're in a single-parent situation, you know,
钱总是不够花 there's never enough money.
[Police siren]
我是说，我们就是一群穷崽子 I mean, we were poor kids, you know.
我们会去偷车，摸进别人家里 We would steal cars, we would break into somebody's house,
搜遍主人的细软之类……你知道吗 take all the women's purses and stuff like... You know.
我们就是一群盗匪 We would be called criminals.
从10岁开始，我们就开始混迹江湖 From the time we were 10 years old, you know, we were hustlers.
知道吗，我们会在橄榄球赛时去搞票 You know, you'd go to the football game, scalp tickets,
每个人都发挥自己的专长 and everybody had their own technique.
是吗？ Yeah.
我当时……我记得在一个傻子面前装可爱，知道吗 I would... I can recall crying in front of a cat, you know.
“我真的很需要！”、“拜托可以把票给我吗！” "Oh, I need it." [Laughs] "Please let me have that ticket." You know?
[Laughter]
“我想看……我想去看休·马克亨利（名人堂跑锋）” "I wanna see... I wanna see Hugh McElhenny play," you know?
一旦傻子心软了，把票给了我 Cats break down, give you the ticket,
我就会到球场的另一侧去把票卖掉 I would go on the other side of the stadium and sell it.
我那时怎么想不出这样的点子？ Why didn't I think of that?
[Laughter]
你见过他和人打架吗 （艾尔·考林斯 童年伙伴） Did you ever see him in any fist fights?
OJ从不打架 O.J. didn't fight.
真的吗？ No?
真的！OJ舌灿莲花 No. O.J. was boisterous.
你说舌灿莲花，你亲眼见过他 When you say he was boisterous, did you ever see him,
光靠嘴就把对方摆平的？ uh, talk himself out of a... a fight situation?
我见过OJ用嘴搞定过各种场面 I've seen O.J. fight... Talk himself out of a lot of situations.
当时学校里发生了这样一件事 There was this one incident at school.
我、艾尔·考林斯和OJ，我们躲在厕所里赌色子 Myself, Al Cowlings and O.J., we were all in the bathroom shooting crap.
我们吼着闹着，我正摇着色子 We were cursing and talking loud, and I was shaking the dice,
突然间大家发现面前多了一双尖头鞋 and, all of a sudden, these big wingtip shoes slide in the circle,
我一抬头，麦克布莱德教练就站在那 and I looked up, and it was Coach McBride.
我们都是他的球员 We were all on the football team.
我们央求道：好吧，麦教练，你逮着我们了，放过我们吧！ We're like, "Okay, Mr. McBride, we're busted. Let us go to class."
他态度坚决，要把我们扭送校长办公室 He's like, "No." He's gonna take us to the principal's office.
OJ走在最后面，我记得听到他不停说 O.J. stays in back of the pack. I could hear him,
“拜托！麦教练，你知道我们会被停学的” "Oh, come on, Mr. McBride. You know we're gonna be suspended."
我们最终还是进了校长办公室 So we get in the principal's office.
麦教练说：“我抓到这些家伙在厕所里赌色子” Coach McBride says, "I caught these guys in the bathroom shooting dice."
说完就转身离开了 And then he turned and walked out.
OJ也跟着转身准备离开 So O.J. turns and walks away.
史密斯校长说“辛普森！你哪里去？” Dean Smith says, "Simpson, where you going?"
他回答说：“我只是协助麦克布莱德教练带这些家伙过来” He says, "Oh, I was just helping Mr. McBride bring these guys down."
然后史密斯校长就让他走了！ [Laughs] And Dean Smith let him go.
[Bell rings]
强烈的自保意识，就是那样的机智 Self-preservation. It was just that kind of smooth talk
总在OJ遇到麻烦的时候展现 that O.J. would do in all kinds of situations.
你觉不觉得他可能得到了一些偏爱 Do you think he was shown a little preference
因为他打球的能力 because of his football ability?
恩，是滴 Oh, yes.
你是说你见过他用嘴摆平过很多状况？ You said you had seen Simpson talk himself out of lots of situations.
是的，和我在一起的时候 Oh, yeah, talked himself... with me.
我们年轻的时候，艾尔·考林斯有口吃的问题 When we were younger, Al Cowlings used to stutter,
他从来不知道怎么跟女士说话 and he never was good with talking to girls.
玛格丽特是住在镇子另一头的美女 Marguerite was the nice girl from the other side of town,
可玛格丽特喜欢艾伦，他们正在交往 but Marguerite liked Alan, and they wound up going steady.
有一次参加聚会，OJ开车来接我 There was some party, and O.J. came and got me.
我本以为我们就直接去聚会的地儿 I thought we was going straight to the party,
但我们在玛格丽特的门前停了下来 but we pull up in front of Marguerite's house,
然后他叫我挪到后座去，我当时惊呆了！你知道吗 and he tells me to get in the back, and I'm, like, in shock, like, you know,
我之前看过她明明是跟……是跟艾伦走在一块 I seen her with... you know, walking with... with Alan.
我们一起去了聚会的地方，艾伦看到了我们 We go down to where the party is, and Alan spots us,
他不停摆头：“不不不！不可能！” and he starts shaking his head and, "No! No way!"
他气得要死，艾伦可是个大块头 He is furious, and Al is a big guy.
他抓住车子，开始摇晃 And he grabs the car, and he's rocking it,
弄得车子上摇下晃的，动静很大 rocking the car back and forth, just rocking it.
然后玛格丽特冲出车去，喊道：“艾伦，停下！” And Marguerite gets out of the car, she says, "Alan, stop it."
然后艾伦真的就停下了！我们简直难以置信 And he stops. And we were like, "No, he didn't."
OJ到底是如何一次又一次的得以脱身的？ [Laughs] How could O.J. keep getting out of these situations?
他抢了自己最好的朋友的马子！ He stole his best friend's girl.
没过多久，你又看到他们仨待一块了，艾伦也去了南加大 Later on, you see the three of them together. Alan went to USC also.
他们又亲密如贼了 They were as thick as thieves.
他到哪，考林斯就到哪 Everywhere he went, A.C. was with him.
是橄榄球把我们凝聚在一起 Football really was what brought us together.
我们个个大言不惭 We were really braggadocious, you know.
说些诸如“我要成为职业球员”之类的大话 We were like, "I'm gonna be a pro football player,"
但OJ的话真的让我印象深刻 and O.J. said something that really struck me.
他说：“听着，你们都听我说，总有一天 He says, "Man, let me tell you guys something. One of these days,
你们的孩子会争着去扮演OJ辛普森” your children are gonna be fighting over who wants to be O.J. Simpson."
他确信他会出人头地 He knew that he was going to be somebody.
他自信不疑，我会这样形容他 He was self-assured. I'll just... I'll just put it that way.
OJ从小就想要成为英雄 O.J. has always wanted to be a hero.
就像伯特·兰卡斯特在电影《空中飞人》里 If it was looking at Burt Lancaster on The Man on the Flying Trapeze
或者伯特·兰卡斯特饰演的吉姆·索普（奥运冠军），他要当英雄 or Burt Lancaster playing Jim Thorpe, he always wanted to be a hero.
一个美国英雄 An American hero.
布法罗比尔队用他们的首轮选秀权，选择了 The Buffalo Bills select as their first choice in the first round,
来自南加州大学的跑锋OJ辛普森 halfback O.J. Simpson, the University of Southern California.
那是你最不愿意去的地方之一 It was the last place you'd wanna be.
你就像给发配到了西伯利亚 （厄尔·爱德华兹 比尔队友） It was just like being sent to Siberia.
有些球员会叫他“焦点先生” （布克·爱格森 比尔队友） There was some players that said, "Oh, Mr. Hotshot."
他知道一定会有人嫉妒 He understood that people around him was envious
他的所作所得 what he was getting and what he was doing.
准备好就开始 OJ Stand by and go whenever you're ready, O.J.
好吧，谁会怀疑自己会抓不住他？ [Chuckles] Well, there was never much doubt about missing him.
对了，他是OJ辛普森，OJ现在是一个职业橄榄球手 Uh, that was O.J. Simpson. O.J. is now a professional football player.
布法罗比尔是他的家，现在问题来了 The Buffalo Bills is his home, and the question is
他会经受多少职业拦截者的考验？ how many professional defensive tacklers is he going to get by?
要具备怎样的态度 So what kind of an attitude
OJ才能适应职业橄榄球？ must O.J. Simpson have to play professional football?
首先，他必须拥有坚定的意念 Well, he's gonna have to be strong-willed,
面对各种各样的局面 uh, in many different ways,
因为他将要面对如山的质疑，他将要…… because he will have a lot of people picking at him, he'll have a lot of...
我们当时的教练，强·罗奇 We had a couch, John Rauch,
在我看来是球队历史上最烂的教练 which I've considered the worst coach that we ever had.
阻挡，他必须参与阻挡 Blocking, he will have to block,
因为其他队员也有可能带球 because other people are ball carriers also.
他多少还想要辛普森参与接球 He tried to make O.J. a receiver, more or less.
我们称之为“投掷”，一种快速而开阔的打法 What we call tosses, quick, uh, opening plays.
而OJ一个球都接不住 And O.J. could not catch a ball.
如果他们付他钱是让他接球的，他确实连屁都接不住 He couldn't catch a ball if they paid him to catch a ball, which they was.
而他们不但付了他钱，还付了不少钱 They was paying him. [Chuckles ] They was paying him a lot.
你觉得布法罗怎么样？
还行，这里人们都很好
当然如果我们开始赢球的话就更好了
OJ恨死了布法罗，他恨那里的天气 O.J. hated Buffalo. He hated the weather.
那是一个蓝领城市，主要由工厂里辛勤劳作的蓝领阶层组成 （乔·德拉米勒 比尔队友） It's a blue collar town. Hard working, blue collar, factory-working people.
OJ的领子从来不是那个颜色 O.J. was nothing of that.
同时，我们球队成绩很糟 And plus, we was on a losing team.
他职业生涯的头几个赛季过得很不如意 The first couple years of his pro career were very frustrating for him,
球队很失望，考虑到所有人寄与他 and they were disappointing relative to the huge expectations
的巨大期望 that everybody set for him.
换句话说，他们认为他是个水货 I mean, they were saying he was a bust.
如果他一直像那样打下去 If it had have stayed the same as it was when he first got drafted in here,
他终会变得寂寂无闻，我真心相信 he would have been a nobody, I honestly believe that.
他会泯然众人 He'd have been a nobody.
OJ得到了最好的消息：强·罗奇下课了 Best thing happened to O.J. was John Rauch got fired,
卢·塞班接掌帅位 and Lou Saban took over.
卢·塞班崇尚地面进攻为主 Lou Saban was a person who believed in the run game first,
传球为辅 the pass game second.
我敢说 如果不是卢·塞班接班 I tell you, if Lou Saban hadn't have came in,
我们根本就不会有今天这次谈话 we wouldn't be doing this story right now.
1973年我们的新球场落成启用 '73 was the year we opened the new stadium.
一座可以容纳8万人的球场 So we had a 80,000 seat stadium,
同时，球队招入了一批年轻的进攻线球员 and they brought in all these young offensive linemen.
塞班教练围绕地面冲击来构建球队 Coach Saban built the team to run.
当我在赛季前进入球队的时候 When I got there during exhibition season,
我看到他各种表演，我感叹“哇，我们有个牛逼的家伙！” I saw him doing things that... I said, "Wow. Homeboy's pretty bad."
卢·塞班开始给全队灌输：我们可以冲球2000码 Lou Saban started selling them on the idea that we can get 2,000.
你们可以达成2000码，我们没有问题 You can get 2,000. We can do this.
你们可以实现它，或者说，你们必将实现它！ You can get it done. What's more, you gotta get it done.
就在赛季的第一场比赛 And in that first game,
我们揭幕、关灯，好戏由此上演，不曾停歇 we turned out the lights and started it and never looked back.
就在我NFL（国家橄榄球联盟）生涯首场，OJ冲了250码 First game I ever played in the NFL, O.J. got 250 yards.
OJ侧着跑比 O.J. Simpson could run sideways faster
多数人往前跑都快 than most men could run forward.
他冲过对方的防线，也就 And he hit the line, and he'd go
一眨眼的功夫，然后就一马平川 [whistles] that quick, then up the sideline.
他真是惊人 He was amazing.
我见过很多好球员 I've been around a lot of good ballplayers,
但没见过像他那样惊为天人 but I've never been around anyone that was as breathtaking
勾魂摄魄的球员 or as captivating as he was.
他可以像滑行一样 He would, like, glide.
保持双脚离地不超过数厘米的距离 He never really picked his feet more than a couple inches off the ground,
所以他就像滑过（对方防线）那些缺口一样 so he was, like, slithering through a hole.
有时候他采用侧身的方式 When he'd hit a hole sometimes he'd turn sideways
侧着身一下就闪了过去 and kind of leap through it sideways.
然后跑进对方后场的开阔地带 Then if he broke open into the open,
然后你就会看到他的膝盖开始带动步伐，大步流星 then you'd start seeing the knees go up in the stride.
他就像黄油一样滑不留手 That's when he was buttery.
他就是让我迷上比尔式暴力橄榄的原因 He's the one who sucked me into being a rabid Bills fan.
你们的声音呢！为了比尔！你们的声音呢！雄起！雄起！ Let's hear it for the Bills. Let's hear it. Come on! Let's go!
雄起！比尔！ Let's go, Bills!
到第7场比赛的时候 And once we got to the seventh game,
周一的夜赛，OJ完成了1000码的冲球 it was a Monday night game, O.J. went over a thousand.
所有人觉得“嘿，我们说不定有机会” Everybody said, "Hey, we have a shot at this."
在14场比赛里带球冲出2000码 Two thousand yards in 14 games.
就像打破贝比·鲁斯（纽约洋基传奇）的全垒打记录一样 That was like somebody breaking Babe Ruth's home run record.
是前无古人的 That was unheard of.
当时我只觉得 What was going through my mind at the time is
他说不定能够打破吉姆·布朗的记录 he might have a chance of breaking Jim Brown's record.
我没奢望过他能冲击2000码的目标 I never thought that he would go 2,000 yards.
你为何胜过别人那么多？ Why are you so much better than everybody else?
我想……我想是我们的进攻线胜过别人那么多 I think... I think the offensive line is so much better than everybody.
嘿！哥哥姐姐们！ ♪ Hey, you guys! ♪
我们要合闸啦！ ♪ We're gonna turn it on. ♪
突然之间球队得到了一个外号“电力公司” All of a sudden, we got a nickname: "The Electric Company."
老实讲，哇，真的很酷 And, wow, this is pretty cool.
外号最初来自球队的公关总监 The nickname came from the PR director of The Bills.
之前有一个动画片就叫《电力公司》 There used to be a cartoon called The Electric Company,
总监的儿子总是守着看 and his son watched it all the time.
小孩说：“爹啊，你干嘛不叫他们电力公司？” He said, "Hey, Dad, why don't you call 'em 'The Electric Company'?"
于是，他们从此开闸放电 They turn on the juice.
比尔队开了个电力公司 ♪ The Bills they got that Electric Company ♪
蒙特勒、佛利、大乔帝 ♪ Montler, Foley, Big Joe D ♪
他们开闸放电，他们开闸放电 ♪ They turn on The Juice ♪ ♪ They turn on The Juice ♪
他们放他敞欢，他们开闸放电 ♪ They cut him loose ♪ ♪ They turn on The Juice ♪
你知道我喜欢看我的电力公司 ♪ You know I love to see my Electric Company ♪
开闸放电，放他敞欢 ♪ Turn on The Juice ♪ ♪ Turn him loose ♪
那一年的OJ不可阻挡 O.J. just couldn't be stopped that year.
合上开关，小子们，接通电源 ♪ Throw that switch, boys ♪ ♪ Turn the power on ♪
有的时候四分卫 There were times when the quarterback
全场只传了6次球还是怎样 would only throw six passes in the entire game.
电流飞奔，电流飞奔 ♪ There goes The Juice ♪ ♪ There goes The Juice ♪
OJ就是进攻，进攻就是OJ The entire offense was O.J. Simpson.
电流飞奔 ♪ There goes The Juice ♪
30码 40码…… ♪ 30, 40... ♪
没有人真的想到他会去冲击2000码 Nobody actually thought he was gonna go for 2,000.
当时还剩下两场比赛，他离目标还差400码 With only, uh, two games to go, he was still 400 and a few yards short.
加油，电流！ Go, Juice!
快点，电流！ Come on, Juice!
在那两场比赛中，我参与了球队每一分钟的进攻 During the games, I never took a minute off from the offense.
你希望电流来戏耍你？ ♪ Do you want The Juice to put a move on you? ♪
我一刻都没有去过替补区 I never made it to the bench.
开闸放电 ♪ Turn on The Juice ♪
妙 ♪ Yeah ♪
我不想错过一分一秒 I didn't wanna miss any of it.
开闸放电 ♪ Turn on The Juice ♪
那是我经历过的最激动人心的时光 It was the most exciting thing that I'd ever seen.
开闸放电 ♪ Turn on The Juice ♪
妙 ♪ Yeah ♪
当我们去纽约打最后一场比赛 When we got to New York, that last game,
他就是奔着离吉姆·布朗的记录去的 he was going for Jim Brown's record.
离记录还差60码，所有人都知道 With 60 yards needed, and everyone knew
（纽约）喷气机队不想让他如愿 that The Jets didn't want him to get the record.
我就在现场，喷气机早就没希望进季后赛了 I was actually there. The Jets had no chance of making the playoffs.
人们唯一感兴趣的事 The only interesting thing about that day
就是OJ能不能达成2000码 was whether O.J. was going to break 2,000.
当时现场那是一个风雪交加，非常寒冷 It was a really snowy, cold day.
有点类似今天这样 Hm, a little bit similar to today.
所以很多人都很担心 So a lot of people were worried
他跑不出多少码数来 that he wouldn't have a lot of rushing yards
因为雪地里跑动会非常湿滑 because of that, a lot of slipping in the snow.
他那天很紧张 He was nervous that day.
我们聊了几句，我告诉他说 We had a little chat, and I told him, I said,
“嘿，兄弟，这只是日历上的又一个周末罢了” "Hey, homies, this is just another week for you."
我想他很清楚那是一场“不成功，则成仁”的比赛 I think he knew that "This is gonna make or break me."
他很清楚，如果想让自己永载史册 He knew that in order for him to write his name in the book,
他需要做到完美无缺 he had to be exceptional.
他正过着一个舒适的生活 He was living a very comfortable life,
但他还想迈入顶尖者的行列 but he wanted to live an exceptional life,
而这就是打开门的那把钥匙 and this was his exceptional feat.
我依稀记得那场比赛的每一次进攻 I remember just about every play in that game.
每一次辛普森拿球 Every time Simpson got the ball,
每个人就拿出本本记录码数 everyone was rushing to their, uh, notepad to write it down.
比赛解说也在不停播报剩下的数字 And the announcers kept counting it down.
好了，先生们，期待的时刻即将到来！“电流”应该 Well, gentlemen, we are coming upon it, and, uh, The Juice should
可以在下一次进攻中打破联盟冲球记录 break the National Football League rushing record in this next series.
辛普森向左变向，辛普森继续推进，完成了！ Simpson running left, Simpson breaking loose, and there it is!
太棒啦！太棒啦！ All right! All right!
他只需要4码，而他跑了5码， He needed four yards, he got five and this crowd,
整个球队的队友都跑上来祝贺他 his whole team is gathering around and congratulating him,
拍打他的头，没有一个人是坐着的 hitting him on the head, there isn't a person sitting down.
他早早的达到了1863码（布朗的记录） He got the 1,863 pretty early in the game.
他们就开始念叨2000码了 And they said, "Okay, now we're going for the 2,000."
现在是冲击2000码的时间，弗洛伊德 And now it's for the 2,000, Floyd.
已经跑了超过100码，OJ，OJ一个内切 More than 100 yards, O.J., O.J. cuts inside,
OJ跑进了开阔地，就是这个节奏！ O.J. gets wide, this is on!
一次冲球让他来到喷气机的半场，到达了对方的43码线 Now a race he's at midfield and he's inside Jets territory at the 43 yard line.
100码，他有多少场比赛跑到了100码？11场？ 100 yards. How many games did he get to 100 yards? Eleven?
当他超过100码的时候 Once he got over 100 yards,
现场气氛起了微妙的变化 a different excitement started to hit the game.
大家意识到他可能办得到，真的能到2000码 Well, he might do this. He might actually hit 2,000.
主队球迷也开始为OJ助威 You had Jets fans who were basically rooting for O.J.
因为他们也想要见证历史 because they wanted to be part of history, and I think, you know,
尽管我还小，但我能体会那种感觉 I was basically a little kid, but I think I felt that way.
谁还关心比赛的胜负 Who cared if The Jets won?
人人都爱OJ Everybody loved O.J.
OJ 已经冲了5码，OJ 向左变向 O.J., he's got five yards, and O.J. running left,
OJ，5码有多，可能有多，我不确定 O.J. five more. Maybe more. I don't know.
他们做到了，他们做到了，好啊！ They did it. They did it. Yeah!
当他达成目标，我把他扛在肩上 And when he did it, he was on my shoulder.
我知道那意味着什么，我也参与其中 I knew how important it was. I contributed to that also.
防守组必须把球抢下来交给进攻组 The defense has to give the ball to the offense.
我感同身受，那也是属于我的荣誉 I felt it. It was mine, too.
赛后，一屋子媒体交集等待着他 Right after the game, there's "Gotta get O.J. to the interview,"
然而他说：“不带上我的兄弟们我就不去” and he said, "I'm not coming in unless you bring in all the guys."
我们挤在一间小屋子里，勉强装下每个人 And we were in a tiny room. We could barely fit in that room.
他把整个进攻组都带上了，他执意要带上我们 He brought in all the offense. He refused to go in that room without us.
OJ，你把他们全叫来了 O.J., you brought 'em all with you.
是的，这是他们的功劳，你们听着 Yeah. Hey, they did the job, all of you.
我希望你们认识认识伙子们，来 I want you to meet the boys. Here.
麦克·蒙特勒 我们的……中锋 Mike Montler, our... our... our center.
吉姆·巴克斯顿、鲍勃·彭钦、乔·弗格森 Jim Braxton, Bob Penchion, Joe Ferguson.
今年没有扔多少球，但球都是他递给我的 Didn't throw many passes this year, but ball-handling is the thing.
[Laughter]
唐尼·格林、鲍比·钱德勒、保罗·赛摩尔 Donnie Green, [laughs] Bobby Chandler, Paul Seymour,
戴夫·拂利，以前是喷气机队的 Dave Foley, a former Jet.
[Laughter]
嘿，少说两句！ All right, all right!
这个家伙，乔·德拉米勒 [Chuckles] This is a guy, Joe DeLamielleure
今年本不应该参加一场比赛的 wasn't supposed to play any football this year.
他心脏出了问题，但他及时恢复了，你们都看到了结果 He had a heart problem, but he came back, and you see what we did.
JD希尔，“阻挡专家”希尔，最后是我的守护神：雷吉·麦肯齐 JD Hill, "Crackback" Hill, my main man Reg McKenzie.
他是你遇到过的最慷慨大度的人 He was the most generous guy you'd ever meet.
打破记录后，他给我们每个人买了一只金制手环 When we broke the record, he bought us a gold wristband.
内侧刻着“我们做到了，电流，3088” And on the back of it is, "We did it. The Juice. 3088."
他没有写2003（自己的记录）他写了3088 He didn't say "2003", he said "3088",
因为那是整支球队的冲球码数 because that's how much the team rushed.
我希望能够坚持打球足够长的时间 I hope to stay in the, uh, league long enough for, uh, you know,
直到后面这些家伙都老了，就不会有其他年轻人 'til all these guys get old so no young back
能跟他们一起打破我的记录了 can get behind 'em and break my record.
73年是他凤凰涅槃的一年 '73 was like a rebirth of his celebrity.
我当时只有22岁，我感到，你知道吗 I was 22 years old, I thought, you know,
“我就像跟贝比·鲁斯一起打球一样” "This is like being on a team with Babe Ruth."
在精神层面，我觉得他比很多人更为强悍 Mentally, I think he was ahead of, uh, a lot of people.
看着他如何应对挑战，如何成就自我 From watching how he handled himself, how he operated,
他改变了我的认知，我也想要像OJ一样 my whole demeanor changed. I began to wanna be like O.J.
他就像是巴里什尼科夫，当一个人在他的领域如此杰出 He was Baryshnikov. When somebody is that great at something,
当我们有幸目睹这些天才，他们浑身散发着光彩 when we see those people, they are special.
他们能做常人之不可及 They just can do stuff that other people can't do.
你为自己设立了一个目标，你听得到观众，但你听不进去 You expect it of yourself. You hear the crowd, but you don't hear it.
你知道他们在为你欢呼，但没有什么大不了的 I mean, you know they're cheering, but that's the way it should be.
当我拥有空间，我就照死里跑，那就是我该做的 When I'm in the open, I'm running, this is how it is supposed to be.
那就是行事之道，那就是万物之道 This is correct. This is the natural state of things.
每当我达成了又一个目标，我都告诉自己 I know whenever I've done it, my feelings have always been,
没什么大不了的，还早着呢 uh, that's nothing. Uh, this is nothing yet.
是的，我可以再做一遍 Yeah, I'm gonna do it again.
奥瑞修·詹姆斯·辛普森拥有那种光彩 Orenthal James Simpson had that shine.
当阳光洒在他身上，散发出的特别的光彩 The sun hit him, and there was this thing about him.
他当时就是那样完美 Because he really was that great.
他的确就是那样完美 He really was that great.
橄榄球是我远离贫民区的快车 Football has been my vehicle to come out of the ghetto,
我想要付出我的所有，我觉得我还有很大空间 uh, to give everything I've got. I think I have a lot more to offer.
我的渴求还有很多很多 There's a lot of things I need as a person.
你知道吗，我渴求，我渴求那份认可 You know, I need, uh... I need that recognition.
我相信，一直驱策着OJ辛普森的 I think that, uh, what... what is driving O.J. Simpson
是渴望爬上顶峰，渴望受人爱戴 is that need to be number one, that need to be liked.
是渴望有人说“瞧啊，那是OJ辛普森” That need to be said, "Hey, that's O.J. Simpson."
当我走在街上，我希望人们都认识我 When I walk down the street, I want people to know me.
让赫兹供你驾乘 ♪ Let Hertz put you in the driver's seat ♪
让赫兹带你远行 ♪ Let Hertz take you anywhere ♪
我们针对顾客开展了一次问卷调查 We had done a survey asking the customer base
问他们最看重租车过程中哪一方面的体验 what was the most important attribute of the rental car experience?
答案是服务的速度 And the most important attribute was speed of service.
我们找到广告商，他们展示了一个故事板 So we went to the agency, and they showed a storyboard
一个生意人带着手提包奔跑穿过机场 of a businessman with a briefcase running through the airport.
我们市场部的人对我说：“弗兰克，那行不通啊” Our marketing guy said, "Frank, it doesn't work.
在现实中一个生意人怎可能做得到 That's not realistic to think a businessman's gonna do that.
我们需要一个代表速度的人 We need somebody that connotes speed."
然后我问他：“比如谁？”他说：“比如OJ辛普森” And I said, "Like what?" He says, "Like O.J. Simpson."
电流起跑之后立即取得领先 Juice comes off the blocks, immediately goes into the lead.
史蒂夫·史密斯跑在第二位 Steve Smith running in second place.
这是马克·格里森，追上来的是汉考克 Right now it's Mark Gleason, but here comes Hancock.
他超过了格里森 He moves past Gleason.
OJ回头看了看，看到史密斯紧随其后 O.J. looks back, sees Smith running at his shoulder,
提了提速度，电流解决了战斗 steps on it a little bit, and The Juice puts him away.
记得一个顾客说 It was one of the clients who said,
你有没有看过ABC的那个真人秀“超级明星” （马克·莫里斯 广告执行） "Did you see the ABC program The Superstars ?
OJ把屏幕都点亮了 O.J. just lit up the screen.
他展现了魅力，让每个人都很愉快 His personality came out, and he just made everybody smile."
你让他离你只剩1码，你看了他一眼 You gave him about a yard and then you took a look at him.
发生了嘛事？ What's happening?
那个，我本来想保持那个速度跑完，应该也能赢 Well, I was out there cruising. I figure I'd coast it on in.
我发现史蒂夫靠近了我，然后，我的自尊心发了点脾气 I saw Steve pull up on me, you know, and my ego got a little ruffled there.
然后我觉得，我还是要显示出差距才行 Then I said, "I'd better get out in front again."
当我联系上他，他的第一反应是 I called him, and his first comment was,
“赫兹是租车业内第一的公司” "Hertz is the number one rent-a-car company.
如果我曾经打算过要给谁广告代言的话 If I'm ever going to do anything in advertising in a big way,
只能是给一等一的公司代言 it's always gonna be for the number one brand."
当你十万火急的时候，听OJ辛普森的 When you're in a rush, take it from O.J. Simpson.
租车行只有一个超级明星，就是赫兹 There's only one superstar in rent-a-car: Hertz.
第一条广告在纽沃克机场（新泽西）拍摄 The first ad was filmed in Newark Airport.
他表现得非常专业 He was very professional,
他总是想要确保自己做得完美无缺 he was anxious to make sure that he did things correctly,
说出的每一个字都自然得体 that his diction was appropriate.
大家都说自己快，但没人有能力做到更快 Others claim to be fast, but nobody has more to do it faster.
更为专业地执行最严苛的标准 More pros to execute the toughest performance standards.
更多车源、更多门店，总是不断创新提速 More cars, more locations, first with every good idea to speed up service,
就像领先俱乐部 like the Number One Club.
就在你到达门店之前，你的表格已填好、车已安排 Before you get there, your form's filled out, car's preassigned.
冲啊，OJ，冲啊！ Go, O.J., go!
速提福特到赫兹，超级明星租车行 Rent a Ford fast from Hertz, the superstar in rent-a-car.
我觉得效果好极了，一切都水到渠成 I thought it was perfect. I mean, it just made sense.
你需要表现服务的速度 You're trying to portray speed of service,
你就让全美速度最快的家伙穿越机场 and you've got the fastest guy in America running through the airport
然后一个和蔼的老太太叫着：“冲啊，OJ！” and a little old lady yelling, "Go, O.J.!"
冲啊，OJ，冲啊！ Go, O.J., go!
完美无缺 It was perfect.
广告反响好得不得了，他们决定增加平面发布 It tested so well that they decided to use him for the print work,
现场发布等，英明的决定 promotional work, and they did the right thing.
他让那家公司赚得盆满钵满 （弗雷德·雷文森 广告导演） He made that company successful.
他成为了那家公司的化身 He became the image for that company.
我们从75年9月开始 We started in September of '75.
参与2年的广告制作之后 OJ辛普森 By two years of the campaign running, O.J. Simpson
被《广告时代》评选为年度最佳广告代言人 was the star presenter of the year for Advertising Age.
那时候没有一段关于OJ的文字 There was never a story that was written about O.J.
里面没有赫兹 that didn't mention Hertz.
行走于商旅之中，你总是争分夺秒 Coming or going on a business trip, you've got no time to waste.
我现在都仿佛能看到他在机场中飞奔 I can see him right now flying through the airport.
不管是提取还是归还 Whether it's picking up or dropping off...
我很自豪，我想要那样的感觉 I was proud. It made me want that.
冲啊，OJ，冲啊！ Go, O.J., go!
它给我希望 It gave me hope.
（广告）就是你，超级速度的你 ♪There you are with super-speed♪
这是一个重要的时刻 This is an important moment.
黑人小孩看到一个成年黑人在电视里奔跑 The young black kid seeing a black man running on television.
吸引了他们全部的视线，他们说，看啊他就像我的雷吉叔叔 That's all he sees. He says, "He looks like my uncle Reggie."
（广告）你知道的 You know it.
那是我们都想做的，我想像OJ一样上电视 That's something I could do. I wanna be like O.J. on television.
你好，想要飞快地租车？看好了 Hi. Ever need to rent a car fast? Watch.
你在聚光灯下，我们喜欢看你，你看起来也像我们一样 You're in the limelight. We like seeing you. You look like us.
那感觉有点像我第一次在电视上 It's kind of like when I first saw black people
看到一个黑人刷牙 brushing their teeth on TV.
我们都知道自己刷牙是什么样 I mean, we always knew we brushed our teeth,
但就在那一刻，你觉得那是了不起的事“快看啦！” but it was, like, a big thing. Like, "Come see!"
OJ辛普森大概就是这么回事 That's what happened with O.J. Simpson.
他实现的是黑人群体从没实现过的，他就是一位先驱 Those were heights that we had not reached before, so he was a pioneer.
只要你是一个在美国的黑人，你就是我们的代表 You're a black man in America, you're fighting our war.
当你在任何领域取得任何成就，你就打开了一扇门 If you make a success for yourself somewhere, you've opened a door.
比较幸运的是，正因为60年代早期的骚乱 Fortunately, because of the riots of the early '60s,
我获得了一些机会 some doors were opened to me.
假如我曾经看待自己稍有不同 If I were to have looked at myself in any other way except a man,
就像我的兄弟走进一间屋子马上就会意识到 my brother could walk into a room and know
他是屋子里的唯一一个黑人 he's the only black guy in the room.
而我走进一间屋子，我想也不会想 I walk in a room, and I don't care.
我不会在乎黑白 I don't count the blacks or whites in the room,
在68年，当我跟那些白人公司签约时 and in '68, when I signed to work for some white companies, you know,
雪佛兰汽车，我走进屋子 Chevrolet Motor Division, I walked in the room,
我根本没有想过我是第一个做这件事的黑人 and I never thought that I was the first black guy to do it.
这类念想从未在我脑中出现过 I never even gave that any credence.
对我们来说，OJ超越了肤色 For us, O.J. was colorless.
我们所有人没有一个把他作为一名黑人来看待 None of the people that we associated with looked at him as a black man.
OJ代表成功 O.J. portrayed success.
成功，一夜而来，而人人都渴望成功 Success, I mean, from nowhere. And I think people want to be successful.
OJ是第一个实例，白人 O.J. was the first to demonstrate that white folks
会因为一个黑人的推荐而掏腰包 would buy stuff based on a black endorsement
只要产品被推荐的方式不那么“黑” as long as it was not pressed as a black endorsement.
为了达到这样的效果，他们的办法是 And the way they did that was to remove black people
在OJ出现的场景中完全规避其他黑人的出现 totally from any scene that O.J. was in.
弗雷德·雷文森曾经说 It was Fred Levinson who said,
“伙计们，我们即将看到一个黑人 "Guys, we're going to be showing a black man
在75的年份里冲过一个飞机场” running through an airport in 1975."
我说：“当你在广告上看到一个黑人 I said, "When you see the commercial with a black guy
跑过一个机场，和你看到 running through an airport, a little different
一个白人跑过一个机场总有差异” than seeing a white guy running through an airport."
于是他提出了增加各类角色的点子 So he came up with the idea of putting in various characters
这些角色会看着OJ，然后支持着他，叫着“冲啊” who would see O.J. and endorse him by saying, "Go, O.J., go!"
冲啊，OJ，冲啊！ Go, O.J., go!
冲啊，电流，冲啊！ Go, Juice, go!
速提福特到赫兹 Rent a Ford from Hertz.
超级明星租车行 The superstar in rent-a-car.
正确 Right.
他们接受了这样的理念 They bought the notion
当你可以去掉“黑”的角色、“黑”的文化、“黑”的一切 that you could erase the black character, the culture.
OJ的形象就可以推广和消费 This is what made O.J. marketable.
尽管他是非裔，但他长相俊朗 He's African, but he's a good-looking man.
知道吗，他几乎具备一些白人的特质 You know, he almost has white features.
他不是那种典型的黑人脸、非洲脸 He wasn't the typical black look, African look.
美国白人得到的 What white America got out of it
是一个“证据”，可以指着一个成功的“黑人” was they could point to somebody that had "made it"
宣称他们不但愿意 and demonstrated unequivocally that we are more than willing
接受你，甚至愿意拥抱你 to not just accept you, but to embrace you.
OJ得到的，是金钱、名望、圈子 What O.J. got out of it was money, fame, celebrity.
嘿，嘿，嘿，你想说啥？ ♪ Hey, hey, hey! What you got to say? ♪
我总是对人说，他就是70年代的代表 I always say of it, he was the guy of the '70s.
当我回看那段时光 I look back at those days,
那时有穆罕穆德·阿里，有汉克·阿伦（棒球明星）和OJ辛普森 there was Muhammad Ali, Hank Aaron and O.J. Simpson.
而OJ是当中最受欢迎的一个 And O.J. was the most popular of all of them.
好莱坞 ♪ Hollywood ♪
我可没有看到另外两位在机场里跑 I didn't see them running through airports.
好莱坞浪子 ♪ Hollywood swinger ♪
当你是一个明星跑锋，你得保持一个范儿 When you're a star running back, you have to maintain a certain image.
讨厌啦 Aw.
我就直说，我喜欢OJ I'm'a tell ya, I dug O.J..
我有机会近距离地见证他的生活，他处事的方式 I got a chance to see how he lived, how he handled stuff.
我从没离哪个巨星这么近过 I'd never been that close to that type of success before.
嘿，听着，好莱坞城，是的 ♪ Hey, listen, Hollywood city, yeah ♪
会有3到4千名粉丝围着球队大巴 They'd have 3-4,000 fans standing around the bus
只为看上他一眼 just to get a look at him.
他会留在场地很长时间去满足每一个签名的要求 He would stay on the field and sign every autograph.
我曾经看到OJ一签就是几个小时 I've seen O.J. sign autographs for hours.
我对他说：“你怎么能够忍受这样的事” I said, "How in the world do you put up with this?"
他回答说：“伙计，我喜欢这样” He said, "Man, I wanted this."
OJ，今晚我们准备给你换换形象 O.J., tonight we're gonna change your image.
菲利普，你又不是第一个尝试的人 Flip, you won't be the first who tried.
好莱坞，好莱坞放荡 ♪ Hollywood, Hollywood swinging ♪
当我第一次见到OJ的时候，他是个巨星 When I first met O.J., he was a huge star.
我会用领先科技的双面刀锋刮一边脸 I'll shave one side with the leading double-edged blade.
我是他妻子玛格丽特妹妹的朋友 I was friends with his wife Marguerite's sister.
我分不出，两边感觉一模一样 I can't tell. Both sides feel the same.
他们住在贝尔艾尔的山丘上 They lived up in the hills, in Bel-Air.
玛格丽特总感觉自己是一个单身母亲，因为OJ总是外出 Marguerite felt like she was a single mother while O.J. was out being O.J.
今晚，OJ，我们要更上一层 Tonight, O.J., we're gonna be sophisticated.
更上一层？ Sophisticated.
我们将要尽情玩个够！奥瑞修 We gonna have a ball, Orenthal.
我喜欢！棒棒哒 I can dig it. Cool.
好样的！OJ Right on, O.J.
好莱坞 ♪ Hollywood ♪
画面就是这个样子，三个曾经的黑又穷 The scene is this, here is three poor black kids,
从未感受过千元在手的感觉 never had a thousand dollars in our pockets.
现在他有了一辆全新的敞篷凯迪拉克 Now he got a brand-new drop-top Cadillac,
我们开着它穿过罗迪欧大道 we're driving down Rodeo Drive.
女人们蜂拥而来，用手圈着OJ，上下其手 Women come up, throw their arms around O.J. and just lay it on him.
还不是一般的女人，是白人女人，标致的白人女人 Not just women, white women. Fine white women.
有啥好说的 What you got to say?
就是那种灯红酒绿 It was that kind of world, man.
好莱坞，好莱坞放荡 ♪ Hollywood, Hollywood swinging ♪
你会不会感受到那种 Do you feel, like, any kind of pressure in some ways to...
人们想要你成为英雄的压力 You know, people expect that you're gonna be a hero
然后不停要求自己…… so you always have to...
这个，对于我来说，我觉得我的一大挑战就是 Well, I found that... I thought that maybe my problem would be
我必须去打破它 that I would have to tear that down.
知道吗，我必须去，知道吗 You know, I would have to, uh... You know,
我觉得渐渐进入了一个误区，知道吗 I... I found that I was becoming a trapped... you know,
去追逐一个别人希望我变成的形象 getting trapped within the image other people have of me.
知道吗，形象决定了我的处世为人 You know, my image was dictating what I did and who I was.
我之前还聘请过经理人，来规划我的一言一行 I even had a manager at one point, I was gonna do something and he said,
“你不能那么做，那不是OJ的风格” "You can't do that. O.J. would never do that."
我一拍脑袋：“嘿！慢着，我自己才是OJ辛普森，对吧 I said, "Hey, wait. Wait a minute. I'm O.J. Simpson, you know?
做这事儿是我自己的决定吧 [Laughs] And I'm'a do it."
收到，那么有没有一种声音 Yeah, 'cause I would think that someone
想要你走向前台，去发挥作用 would like you to be a spokesman. You know, to get out there.
一直都有 All the time.
是吗？ Yeah?
很多声音希望我更多参与政治 I've had a lot of pressure on me to go into politics.
我被推着参加了一两次人权运动 I was pulled into it once or twice in the black movement,
还是在学生时期 when I was in school.
我觉得我们（运动员）被利用了，也……也被伤害了 I think they tried to use us, and in many cases, it... it hurt guys.
我对哈利·爱德华兹感同身受 I felt that with Harry Edwards.
对汤米·史密斯、对强·卡洛斯，都是如此 It hurt Tommie Smith, it hurt John Carlos.
被人所操纵 Standing on his platform,
我觉得他们应该代表自己 I thought they should've been standing on their own platform.
就我而言，只要我要想发声 I say if I'm gonna be standing on the platform,
就一定是OJ的声音 I'm gonna be speaking for O.J. [Laughs]
你第一次和辛普森先生会面是在什么时候？ When did you first meet Mr. Simpson?
1970年 （罗伯特·卡戴珊 三姐妹的父亲） 1970.
是在怎样的情形下会的面？ Okay, and under what circumstances?
应该是在，……一个网球场 I met him, uh, on a tennis court.
可以为我们形容一下辛普森先生吗 Would you be able to describe Mr. Simpson's
第一感觉 basic personality as you knew it?
很有风度，很开朗 Very personable, very outgoing.
我们先是在生意上往来，然后，大家距离就越来越近 We did business together, and then we would, uh, socialize together.
我们有次在比弗利山上鲍勃（昵称）·卡戴珊的豪宅里 We were at Bob Kardasian's mansion in Beverly Hills.
OJ和他们打网球，大家都很开心 O.J. is playing tennis, and everybody's having a good time.
“看我的黑色威力”之类 I'm with black power, get it? [Laughs]
我不想和这些人打交道 I don't wanna be around these people, all right?
一个比一个虚情假意 'Cause they're all phony to me.
我对他说：“OJ，你四下看看 I said, "O.J., look around you, man.
这里没人把我们当回事的 These people don't care nothing about us.
再早几年，这些家伙来菲尔莫镇的话 Just a few years ago, these guys woulda drove down Fillmore
肯定是开着他们的劳斯莱斯，朝我们吐口水来着” in their Rolls Royce and they wouldn't have even spit on us."
我说：“现在，他们表现得就像我们是他们失散的兄弟一样” I said, "Now they're acting like we're their long-lost brothers."
我说：“我们来这里的唯一使命就是做道具 I said, "Man, the only reason we're here is we are jocks,
而你做你的OJ” and you're O.J.."
然后，他看了看我，说：“嗯哼，是滴” And he looked at me, he says, "Mm-hm, yeah."
他说：“我理解你说的话” He says, "I understand what you're saying,"
他整理了一下球拍 and he rubbed his tennis racket.
接着说：“可我就是OJ” 然后长笑着回到场上 He says, "But I am O.J.," and ran off on the field laughing.
我当时那个，天啊，那个气得啊 And I was, like, I mean, I was furious.
我叹息啊：“他已经走失了，他已经迷失了自我 Because I say, "He's lost. He's lost his identity.
他已经丢掉了自己的根” He doesn't know who he is any longer."
我觉得他被洗脑了 I think he'd been brainwashed.
让我给你读一点他的原话 Let me read you something that he said to me.
这一类的议题困扰着我 "That sort of thing hurts me
我终其一生想要先从人做起（再说肤色） even though it's what I strive for, to be a man first.
这也许事关金钱、社会阶层 Maybe it's money, a class thing.
因为老黑总是和贫穷联系在一起 The negro is always identified with poverty.
但当提到黑人，你会先想到威利·梅斯（棒球明星） 而不是比尔·考斯比（笑星） But then you think of Willie Mays as black, but not Bill Cosby.
所以又不全是金钱的关系 So it's more than just money.
作为黑人，我们似乎总是需要不停争取 As black men, we need something up there all the time for us,
但我个人不是为了争取群体的权利地位 but what I'm doing is not for principles or black people.
不是，我就只为了OJ辛普森，他的家庭而争取 No. I'm dealing first for O.J. Simpson, his wife and his babies."
OJ的策略就是彻底从他的生活中抹去肤色因素 O.J.'s quest was to erase race as a defining factor in his life,
而那也正是白人社会 and that was the basis upon which white society
不但接纳他，甚至拥抱他的原因 not only accepted him, but embraced him.
而让人抓狂的事实是 Now, there are problems with that,
帮助OJ成为这个非白非黑的OJ的 because what enabled O.J. to be O.J. and not be black
正是千万黑色群体的抗争 was that so many negroes and black people stood up,
他们牺牲，他们付出 made the sacrifice, paid the price.
他们给OJ创造了舞台，而OJ的话却是 They're the ones that set the table for O.J. and what he was saying was,
好吧，革命也许尚未成功，但我成功了 "Okay. We may not have arrived, but I have arrived,
而据我所知 and as far as I'm concerned,
大家都可以模仿我的成功轨迹 everybody else can get here the same way that I did,
来到达我的地位 and when they get here, they can do what I do."
他受尽娇宠和爱戴 He was so privileged, he was so accepted,
身处的光环让他谢绝真实 he was so embraced that he was immune from the reality
拒绝承认每天早上镜子里是一个黑人 that he could find in the mirror every morning that he was a black man.
但不论你跑得多快多远 No matter how far he runs and how long he runs,
当你看向镜子 when you look in the mirror,
那里面始终会是一个黑人的脸孔 始终如此 that black man is gonna be right there with you. Every day.
有一次我们坐在屋里，他突然说 We were just sitting around the house once and, uh, he says,
“乔，你觉得你还能回去吗？” "Joe, do you think you could go back?"
我懵逼了：“回哪去？” And I was like, "Go back where?"
他说：“就是，回到老街区，瞎混？” He said, "You know, go back to the projects, hanging out?"
我说：“是的，兄弟，我什么时候都可以回去” I said, "Yeah, man." I said, "I could go back tomorrow."
波特雷罗山，完全还是老样子 Potrero Hill. [Laughs ] Hasn't changed a bit.
我们那时没有像金博士（马丁路德金）那样的楷模 We didn't have Dr. King and these other bougie folks as role models.
我们的榜样就是街上那些皮条和混混 Our role models was pimps and players.
那些是我们唯一仰崇的对象 Those are the only people that we looked up to,
因为他们很酷 because they had cool things.
他们可以当街把一个家伙打出翔来 They'd beat a ho down right there on the street in front of everybody
街上的姑娘们就知道 so that all the women would know it,
不老实交钱 this is the kind of treatment you're gonna get
这就是下场 if you don't bring me my money.
你的世界观是被你生命中的人们所影响的 Your perceptions are shaped by the men that are in your lives.
妈妈很好，我们知道她爱我们，但事实就是 Mama was Mama. We knew she loved us, but the reality is
我并不想成为妈妈，妈妈是女人，我想成为一个男子汉 I didn't wanna be like Mama. Mama's a woman. I want to be a man.
他有时候不得不和他的父亲打交道 He had to deal with his father from time to time.
一些时候，他的父亲会 Sometimes, I guess his father came by
为娘俩支付费用之类 to take care of the monthly payment or whatever.
有一天，我们一起去他父亲家，我们敲了门 One day, we went over to his dad's house. We knocked on the door.
他很紧张不停看我，当他父亲开门的时候 He kept looking at me, and when his dad opened the door,
身穿一件浴袍，一切还很正常 he was in a bathrobe, which is not a crime,
但当他把门再敞开一点 but then his dad kinda opened the door more,
我们就看到里面还有一个穿着浴袍的男人…… and there was a guy in the back in a bathrobe too,
一切都显示他父亲是个同性恋 so it was obvious that his dad was gay.
离开以后，一路上我们都很安静 We left and on the way back, we were quiet.
因为这实在是太尴尬了，大家一直憋啊憋啊 Because there was so much tension, we got to this certain point,
然后突然之间一起笑出声来 and we both bust out laughing.
凯文来找我，跟我说 Calvin came to me, and he was like,
“兄弟，你可知道OJ的老爷子是个基佬？” "Man, did you know O.J.'s dad is a punk?"
我立即说：“伙计，闭嘴！我不想听那些东西” I was like, "Man, shut up. I don't wanna hear that."
在那个时代里，这是世上最糟糕的事情 Back in our day that was the worst thing in the world.
你能够想象吗，一个非裔美国人 That you could ever think about an African-American man
同时又是一个同性恋者 being a homosexual.
你后来有没有跟OJ谈论过这事？ Did you ever talk to O.J. about this?
没有 No.
从不？ Never?
嗯哼，我觉得他一个人要承受这种事情，已经很难了 Mm-mm. I felt like that issue was enough for him to deal with himself.
我们可以把OJ看作一个美国人 Think of O.J. as an American man,
一个贫穷的美国人，坚强的美国人 a poor American man, tough American man,
为自己创造了一个人们愿意接纳、愿意鼓励的形象 who's recreating himself in ways that people would accept and push.
OJ可能即将为他光辉的橄榄生涯划上句号 O.J. Simpson may be playing the last game of his brilliant football career
就在明天在布法罗比尔队和明尼苏达维京人队的这场比赛中 tomorrow when the Buffalo Bills meet the Minnesota Vikings.
一整年，OJ都在暗示，他可能挂靴，转而投身影业 All year, O.J. has hinted he may hang up his cleats for a movie career.
他迫不及待的想要离开布法罗 He could not wait to get out of Buffalo.
他已经远离浮华淫逸太久了 He was away from the glamour.
他已经远离好莱坞的灯红酒绿太久了 He was away from all the Hollywood and all that stuff.
他在这里也出名，但感觉完全不一样 He got attention here, but it was a different kind of attention.
那不是好莱坞式的名望 It was not Hollywood attention.
卢·塞班今天说，他察觉到了电流的变化 Lou Saban said today that he's detected a change in The Juice.
他不再像以前一样充满斗志 He hasn't diminished one whit as a competitor,
相信他是一个聪明的人 but he's an intelligent man,
他已经在为自己的未来打算 and he's thinking about the whole of his future life.
在橄榄球之外，有一些机会太好 There are certain opportunities outside of football
好到我不能，恩，我不能再继续视而不见了 that I can't, uh... I just can't overlook too... too many more years.
刚刚成为职业球员的时候，我真是雄心壮志 You know, I came into the league, I thought the world was mine.
紧接着那几年惨淡的日子提醒了我 I had a few bad years, and I realized then that
“嘿，你知道吗？人生起伏，世事无常” "Hey, you know, when you're hot you're hot,"
ABC已经向我伸出橄榄枝 so there's opportunities that have come to me with ABC,
有一些电影我想要参与 with the movies that I would like to, uh, take advantage of
不过目前对我来说唯一要做的就是打好球 and, uh, the only thing I wanna do right now is play...
在场上尽力做到最好，然后一但要退休 Get the best possible year I can so if I do retire...
我会觉得了无遗憾 I... I will feel that I gave it my all and I,
知道吗，完成华丽的转身 you know, uh, went out the best.
那是你以委婉曲折的方式说你要抢我的饭碗 That's your own meretricious way of saying you want my job.
这个，你得先给我解释一下“委婉曲折”是什么意思 Well, you gotta explain meretricious to me, Howard.
[Laughs]
[Chuckles]
我始终觉得有一些别的什么东西潜藏在OJ辛普森 I always felt that there was more underneath O.J. Simpson
展现给大家看的这层表象之下的 than just the momentary superficiality of his pleasantness.
他有自己的宏图壮志 He had goals that he wanted to achieve,
而他全部内化于心 and he internalized those things.
有一种特别的力量始终驱动着他，而我觉得 There was something driving him, and I always felt
他的眼光早就突破了运动生涯 that he was looking past a football career,
因为他知道运动生涯必将终止 which was going to definitely come to an end.
发射倒数18秒、倒数15秒 We are T-minus 18 seconds from liftoff. We are T-minus 15 seconds.
你和你的队员赶快跟我来 Would you and your men please follow me?
加里，这他妈神马情况？ Gary, what the hell is this?
这是紧急情况，跟我来，立刻！ This is an emergency. Please follow me now!
好莱坞近期最受瞩目的电影之一 One of the most intriguing films now being put together in Hollywood
就是《摩羯星一号》 is Capricorn One.
詹姆斯·布洛林出演第一个踏足火星的宇航员 James Brolin plays the first astronaut to set foot on Mars,
但在这片子里最抢风头的可能就是OJ辛普森 but the picture's scene-stealer will probably be O.J. Simpson.
这个基本上就是片方的意思 It basically came from the studio that they wanted O.J. Simpson.
我认为我们有那么多优秀的非裔演员可以用 （彼特·海姆斯 导演） I thought there were worthy African-American actors
都是经验丰富、才华出众的演员 who had paid their dues as actors, who had shown their talent.
我的首选应该是罗伯特·霍克斯或者伯尼·凯西 My first choice was either Robert Hooks or Bernie Casey,
所以我的第一反应是蛮抗拒的 so my reaction was less than enthusiastic.
我看过（他演的）《火烧摩天楼》 I had seen Towering Inferno.
什么？该死的，伙计，你要派个人上去 What? Damn it, man, you shoulda sent a man up there.
你怎么能指望她接电话？她是个聋子 How do you expect her to hear a phone call? She's deaf.
我不太觉得他是演戏的材料 I thought he was not gonna frighten Daniel Day-Lewis.
OJ是个声名正盛的大咖 O.J. was a celebrity of enormous stature,
然而其时他并没有展现足以胜任这个角色的能力 and somebody who had not shown the chops to play the part.
参与像《摩羯星一号》这样的巨制给你怎样的压力 How uptight do you get making a picture like Capricorn One
考虑到你和那些演艺界的大腕一起合作 where you're working in the company of actors of... of real stature and...
而你自己不过是一个橄榄球明星试图成为一个演员 and you're just a football star trying to be an actor?
不，我不认为我有那样的……那样的感觉 No, I don't think, uh, it's given me that... that feeling.
我的感受就是 It's obviously given me the feeling that,
嘿，我真的有很多东西可以学啊 "Hey, I've still got a lot to learn."
我觉得人生就是一个学习的过程 I think, uh, you never stop learning in anything,
至于我，我就像个刚走进森林的小孩子 and I... I realize I'm still just a babe, you know, in the woods.
我花了不少功夫来让这个家伙符合我的要求 My goal was to see if I could make this guy work for what I wanted.
在拍摄他的最后一幕时 Came time to do his last scene.
水！似乎看到了水 Water. Tiny says signs for water.
他的角色口渴难忍并且神志不清 He's a guy who's parched and delusional.
干枯的河床！看到了 Dry river bed. Signs.
与其让他完全靠演技去表现一个 And so rather than him acting somebody
口渴到绝望的人 who was desperately thirsty...
……更多的 幻象 ... more sign.
我对他的面部进行了特殊处理，让他难以活动、 I put appliances on his face that made it difficult for him to move
难以说话，让他的声音 and difficult to talk, and it just made him sound
显得奄奄一息 like he was in desperate trouble.
伊丽莎白，这里没有水 [Sniffs] Elizabeth, there's no water.
这里没有水啊！我不想死 [Sobs] There's no water. [Sobs] I don't want to die. [Coughs]
然后，出来的效果还挺不错 And, uh, he was pretty good.
伊丽莎白 Elizabeth.
知道吗，我佩服他 You know, at the... at the... What could I say?
他是个充满魅力、活力四射的家伙 He was a charming, terrific guy.
一个开朗自信的家伙，工作格外努力 He was a positive guy. He tried very hard,
很明显，他对自己的演艺事业志在必得 and it was clear that he saw a future for himself in film.
“雏菊”是比佛利山一个私人会所 The Daisy was a private club in Beverly Hills,
唯一能够踏足的人 and the only people that could get in it
要么有钱、要么有名、要么有颜 were either rich, famous or beautiful.
那地方聚集着商贾名流，以及最漂亮的姑娘 All the celebrities used to go there. And really beautiful girls.
即便你未成年都不是问题 And you could get in even if you were underage, no problem.
杰克·汉森创造了这里，他认识每一位好莱坞明星 Jack Hanson started the disco, and he knew every Hollywood star.
杰克也是南加大毕业 Jack was a former USC guy.
有一天他跟我说：“你认识这个叫辛普森的家伙吧 One day he said, "You chum around a bit with this Simpson guy.
可不可以哪天带他过来，给我引见引见？” Could you bring him by, you know, and introduce him to me?"
当时他还跟玛格丽特结着婚 He was married to Marguerite at that time.
那天我们坐在那里，看到一个金发飘逸的漂亮姑娘 But as we're sitting there, this gorgeous little surfer blonde
正在等着桌子用餐 is waiting tables at lunch hour.
OJ大呼小叫的：“哇喔，那是谁？” O.J. goes, "Wow, who's that?"
杰克带着妮可过来打了个招呼 Jack had Nicole come over and said hello.
她离开还不到两三米 辛普森就对着（杰克）汉森说 And she didn't walk 10 feet away, and he looks right at Hanson and said,
“我要娶那个姑娘” "I'm gonna marry that girl."
她当时18岁，刚刚从高中毕业 She was 18 years old, she had just graduated from high school.
她就像是我的小妹妹 She was just like my little sister.
她跟我讲：“我遇到个男的，他叫OJ辛普森” She goes, "I met this man, and his name is O.J. Simpson."
他们第一次约会，我一直等到很晚 They went out, and I waited up for them.
她回来的时候，已经凌晨两点钟了 She got home, it was, like, 2 o'clock in the morning
她的牛仔裤被撕破了，我问她：“怎么回事？发生了什么？” and her jeans were ripped. And I went, "What... ? What happened?"
她回答说：“那个，他有一点对我用强的” And she goes, "Well, he was a little forceful."
然后我说：“妮可啊，你怎么能够让他 And I go, "Nicole, why would you let him,
第一次和你出去就对你这样？” first date, be a little bit forceful?"
“没事，戴夫，别生气，我想我是真心喜欢这人” "Well, Dave, don't be upset. I think I really like this guy."
而这，就是一切的开端 That was, you know, the start of it.
大概两天之后，她下班回来给我说 About two days later, she went back to work. She said,
“OJ来找我了，他想要买一座房子给我，还有一辆车” "O.J. came in. He wants to get an apartment for me and also a car."
然后我说， And I went,
“妮可，你可要好好想想，他结婚了，还有小孩” "Nicole, think about this. You know, he's married and has children."
然后她回答说：“但是我真的真的喜欢他” 一切就是这么快 And she goes, "But I think I really like this guy." It was that fast.
只有18岁，她还很小很小 Eighteen years old. I mean, it was too young.
她很安静、随和、不多话 She was quiet, nice, didn't say too much.
她给人的感觉并不是孤僻之类，她就是一个内向的人 She wasn't like she was distant or anything. She was just a shy person.
妮可是一个行动派，只要动了念头，就会付之行动 And Nicole was a doer. Whatever Nicole put her mind to, she could do.
她其实想要做一个摄影师 She actually wanted to be a photographer,
而她身上一直都有这样的艺术气息 （谭雅·布朗 妮可的姐姐） and she was always an artist.
老实说，那种吸引力是显而易见的 Honestly, the connection's pretty obvious.
我是说，她真是清丽动人 I mean, she's drop-dead gorgeous.
她很美，我妹妹真的是个大美人 She was hot. My sister was really a beautiful girl.
我们并没有听说过他，我们都是养在深闺的姑娘家 We didn't know who he was. We were girls in the Brown house.
我们从小到大就没有接触过橄榄球，我们喜欢去海滩 We didn't grow up with football. We went to the beach.
所以当妮可带着他回来，我们都不认识他 So when Nicole came home with him, we were like, "Who are you?"
他们俩实在是打得火热，这一对儿 They had a real love affair, these two.
当他们在一块的时候，眼睛里只有彼此 When they were together, it was just... it was love.
正因如此，整件事才让人感到格外的难过 And that's what makes this thing so sad.
Juice在英文中既有“电流”的意思，也有“果汁”的意思。 美国人在称呼OJ的时候，应该是双义齐用的， 因为OJ本身就可以是“橙汁”（Orange Juice）的缩写。 译者一来考虑到这个昵称的起源毕竟还是布法罗比尔队“电力公司”的昵称； 二来考虑到前后一致、方便观看、避免交叉混淆， 因此所有字幕中将以“电流”这一个意思为主。 特此说明。